What, me worry?
Posted on 12/11/2008 8:46:17 AM PST by ckilmer
Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.
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from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
4). There was a notice in a Hawaiian newspaper in 1961.
Any details on this?
Sorry “birthers” Game-Set-Match. Obama was born in Hawaii is the most likely explanation according to all available data. It may not be what you want to believe, but it is most likely the truth.
"Most likely explanation" doesn't cut it. The egregious problem in all of this is that there is a Constitutional requirement laid out and absolutely no way to enforce it.
Regardless of Obama's natural-born citizenship (or lack thereof), the simple fact that there is no recourse to verify this most basic requirement for the Presidency is a scandal in and of itself.
Is it possible that the newspaper archives were "updated" sometime recently?
With that I agree with you. The founders wrote the Presidential qualifications into the Constitution, but didn’t enact any measures to assure that only a qualified candidate would be elected by the Electoral College, or even any measures to check the qualifications of either a candidate or the electoral victor. We need to enact those measures so that no unqualified person ever runs or is elected going forward.
That is not the disputed point! His father's citizenship and his mother's ability to transfer citizenship at his birth under then existing laws is the point. So far no evidence has been provided to answer these questions.
While some (Farah) seem to think the real story is something more sensational, I suspect it happened like this: His then-pregnant mother was visiting Kenya. She intended to fly back to Honolulu but she was so very pregnant that the airline wouldn't let her fly because they didn't want to deliver a baby in flight. She birthed our little nightmare in Kenya (as claimed by his own relatives, as claimed by the Kenyan ambassador, etc.), then shortly thereafter flew home to Honolulu and registered his foreign birth with the state of Hawaii. Probably sent the announcement info to the newspaper.
Although there are other very real problems with his citizenship (British citizenship, Indonesia, etc.), the most glaring one is the fact that for a foreign-born child to acquire U.S. citizenship at birth, one of the parents must have been a U.S. citizen for at least five years past the age of sixteen. Omama, however, was only eighteen years old, rendering that condition impossible.
Bottom line: Liberals have been steadily effecting a coup over the past forty years. The capstone to their effort is what I call a coup d'bureaucracy. Everybody in the election process just assumed that it was someone else's job to verify the pesky little details like CITIZENSHIP. Since it was in nobody's job description, it just didn't get done. And here we are.
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Any comments?
So? they ask. OK. I will answer. So either someone knew Obama would want to be born in Hawaii back in 1961, or Obama was actually born in Hawaii in 1961. So far nobody has come up with a plausible reason for a very pregnant Stanley Ann Dunham to fly to Kenya to give birth. Or a plausible reason why there would be a birth notice for Obama in a 1961 Hawaii newspaper.
Well that explains why the BC is being reserved at enormous legal cost. Apparently a notice of birth in an Hawaiian newspaper is good enough.
I was born in England. However a notice of my birth was also put out in a paper in a foreign port by my proud sea-faring dad. Let's say that port was New York (it wasn't). Can I run for President?
According to you, I can.
According to the present circumstances, anybody can run for President and there is no mechanism to ensure qualification. That has to change.
What, me worry?
One just like the one I mailed to my home-town newspaper when my daughter was born in 1964.
See #15. It was common practice at the time to announce the birth of a child in the newspaper....especially if the child was born in a different locale from the paper.
Why doesn’t he just instruct the State of Hawaii to release his birth certificate and get it over with?
I’m the author of this piece. The reason I didn’t expound on the “So?”, is because I’ve already done it in several other places...and most of you intellectual stair-tumblers just refuse to accept it. No matter what is offered by way of fact or logic, you ignore it, and move on to something else completely debunkable...and when that’s debunked, you return to the beginning and start it all over again. It’s hilarious, at this point. Honestly, laughable. Excerpts, citing 2 separate but entirely possible, viable, simple, and non-conspiratory courses of action that may have occurred - resulting in the posting a birth announcement:
“Additionally, a birth announcement in a newspaper is certainly not indicative of legally binding precedent. It’s entirely likely that if a birth occurred in a foreign country, and his mother returned home and legally registered the foreign birth with the state of Hawaii, the the release to the paper would still exist.”
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-160646
“’Look....if there was any truth to this, it would have meant that Barack’s parents and a Hawaiian newspaper were in on it too. And they were in on it 47 years ago! There’s a birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper for crying out loud.’
Okay now this is one of my favorites. So now rather than authenticating citizenship by way of formal, long-form, vault copies of actual Certificates of Live Birth - we are relying on birth announcements in newspapers? Let me ask you something: If you and your wife live in Ohio , but you gave birth while visiting Florida , is there a legal or logical premise that says you’re bound to put that birth announcement in a Floridian newspaper? Or, would you likely send news of the birth back home, to your town-of-residence, where more friends and family would see the good news? If Barack Obama was born outside of the U.S. , there doesn’t have to be a “conspiracy” for his family to have sent word of that birth back to their hometown newspaper.”
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-156768
Now that we got that out of the way...what of the other 4 Commandments of Obama’s Innocence are you going to return to? Dizzying as it may be, now that I’m here, I might as well educate the sliver of your mind that might remain open, as it relates to Obama’s infalibility.
So?
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