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To: ckilmer

4). There was a notice in a Hawaiian newspaper in 1961.

Any details on this?


2 posted on 12/11/2008 8:50:12 AM PST by Paisan
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To: Paisan
They admit it, say “So?” and then move on. The detail is that the birth notice in the Hawaiian newspaper in 1961 indicates that either Obama was born in Hawaii, or that someone in 1961 knew that Obama would WANT to be born in Hawaii circa 2008 and fraudulently entered a birth notice in a Hawaiian newspaper.

Sorry “birthers” Game-Set-Match. Obama was born in Hawaii is the most likely explanation according to all available data. It may not be what you want to believe, but it is most likely the truth.

3 posted on 12/11/2008 8:55:07 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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To: Paisan
Typical newspaper birth announcement. I've seen a scan of it.

While some (Farah) seem to think the real story is something more sensational, I suspect it happened like this: His then-pregnant mother was visiting Kenya. She intended to fly back to Honolulu but she was so very pregnant that the airline wouldn't let her fly because they didn't want to deliver a baby in flight. She birthed our little nightmare in Kenya (as claimed by his own relatives, as claimed by the Kenyan ambassador, etc.), then shortly thereafter flew home to Honolulu and registered his foreign birth with the state of Hawaii. Probably sent the announcement info to the newspaper.

Although there are other very real problems with his citizenship (British citizenship, Indonesia, etc.), the most glaring one is the fact that for a foreign-born child to acquire U.S. citizenship at birth, one of the parents must have been a U.S. citizen for at least five years past the age of sixteen. Omama, however, was only eighteen years old, rendering that condition impossible.

Bottom line: Liberals have been steadily effecting a coup over the past forty years. The capstone to their effort is what I call a coup d'bureaucracy. Everybody in the election process just assumed that it was someone else's job to verify the pesky little details like CITIZENSHIP. Since it was in nobody's job description, it just didn't get done. And here we are.

MM

8 posted on 12/11/2008 9:05:05 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Paisan

One just like the one I mailed to my home-town newspaper when my daughter was born in 1964.


15 posted on 12/11/2008 9:51:05 AM PST by jch10
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To: Paisan

Paisan,

Excerps from previous articles, citing two separate but entirely viable ways a birth announcement might make it’s way to a newspaper, without their having to be anything conspiratory in that reality, activity or existence:

“’Look....if there was any truth to this, it would have meant that Barack’s parents and a Hawaiian newspaper were in on it too. And they were in on it 47 years ago! There’s a birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper for crying out loud.’

Okay now this is one of my favorites. So now rather than authenticating citizenship by way of formal, long-form, vault copies of actual Certificates of Live Birth - we are relying on birth announcements in newspapers? Let me ask you something: If you and your wife live in Ohio , but you gave birth while visiting Florida , is there a legal or logical premise that says you’re bound to put that birth announcement in a Floridian newspaper? Or, would you likely send news of the birth back home, to your town-of-residence, where more friends and family would see the good news? If Barack Obama was born outside of the U.S. , there doesn’t have to be a “conspiracy” for his family to have sent word of that birth back to their hometown newspaper.”
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-156768

“Additionally, a birth announcement in a newspaper is certainly not indicative of legally binding precedent. It’s entirely likely that if a birth occurred in a foreign country, and his mother returned home and legally registered the foreign birth with the state of Hawaii, the the release to the paper would still exist.”
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-160646

If you’re looking for more detail on the actual announcement...it was pretty simple: “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6805 Kalanlanaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4”. No notation of hospital, or any other corroborating evidence to the place of birth....only that the birth occurred.


21 posted on 12/11/2008 3:03:42 PM PST by HankRand
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