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The article itself makes some sense, while the faith in Mr. Obama is misplaced.

Suffering? No one in this country is starving unless they are obstinate or bulemic. The average "poor" family has a car, television, Internet, a roof over their heads, free education, Food Stamps, Section 8, and much more. In Africa, South America and Asia that's called "middle class" or better.

1 posted on 12/11/2008 12:51:18 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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My wife and I have had a “victory garden” ever since we got married 35 years ago. Great stuff and untaxed by the greedy politicians,


37 posted on 12/11/2008 6:39:22 AM PST by tom paine 2
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ping


39 posted on 12/11/2008 6:46:52 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Do I have to grow food to give to those who live in public housing high rises?


52 posted on 12/11/2008 7:09:35 AM PST by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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Victory Garden? The libs don’t want victory. How about an unconditional withdrawal garden? A surrender garden? A defeat garden? A detente garden?


56 posted on 12/11/2008 7:14:33 AM PST by Cheesel (The Ark was built by amateurs, the Titanic by professionals.)
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My parents grew a survival garden all their life from the 20s on. I know because starting in the late 30s I had to weed and water it and swore when I grew up I would never ever garden again. Yeah...right. We bought a place with 6 acres so I could “Garden” in 1979 and prior to that we bought a vacant lot next to that house so I could “Garden”.

Getting back to the Victory Garden, I have been spending a lot of time looking at hundreds of ariel photos from the 40s 50s and 60s posted on the Humboldt State Universitie's library collections web site and almost every back yard had a garden here in Eureka. Ping me if anyone wants a link to the site...

58 posted on 12/11/2008 7:24:52 AM PST by tubebender (Retirement...The art and science of Killing time before it Kills you...)
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People might have to go this route to survive the Obama years.


75 posted on 12/11/2008 8:17:08 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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Then the Mayors of Monterey, Salinas, Pacific Grove and the county supervisors must stop using the taxpayer to fund ‘smart growth’ human storage container housing and creating off limits ‘open space’ so their political contributors don’t have to look at their neighbors, and let people build single family homes with gardens.

They need to get spines and oppose the virulent ‘greenies’, and let the people build the planned water storage systems so the county isn’t on water rationing ( I mean reservoirs, not desalination boondoggle plants).

Then maybe people can grow gardens there.


77 posted on 12/11/2008 8:18:58 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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I’d like to see a timeline since 1960 plotting these same spikes in the prices of food and health care versus the progression of government “involvement” (farm bills, medicare and all). I’ll bet they correlate about 1:1.


80 posted on 12/11/2008 9:25:31 AM PST by printhead
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after World War II the government encouraged the conversion of the munitions industry into fertilizer production (while also encouraging a shift in the focus of nerve-gas research toward pesticides)...

...As four of the top 10 killers in America today – heart disease, stroke, Type 2 diabetes and cancer – are chronic diseases linked to diet, the correlation between money spent on food and medical care doesn’t look like a coincidence.

Cancer drugs (chemotherapy) are largely derived from mustard gas. The drastic increase in pesticides is worrying. Cancer is increasing yearly, to the point where a report said it would be the leading cause of death by 2010. I think one of the main culprits is fried food. I know it tastes good but it is sooooo bad for you. FReepmail if you want to learn more, I won't lecture on here more than that.

Not only is cheap food health and bad for the environment, but cheap food isn’t even cheap anymore.

Say again??

85 posted on 12/11/2008 11:16:37 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Join us on the best FR thread, 8000+ posts: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts)
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“Not only is cheap food health and bad for the environment, but cheap food isn’t even cheap anymore.”

Is it me or is this sentence illiterate.


113 posted on 12/13/2008 10:44:30 PM PST by fishhound (Obama and company are trying to FOCAround with the Church.)
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Can you ping me with your original survival thread. I can’t find it.


120 posted on 03/19/2009 11:55:54 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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