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How revisiting Eleanor Roosevelt’s Victory Gardens program could help feed a suffering nation.
The Monterey County News ^ | December 11, 2008 | Ari LeVaux

Posted on 12/11/2008 12:51:17 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: EBH

All you need is a plan on what you want to grow. Then get a few pounds of ammonium nitrate and potassium nitrate. Thoroughly mix them in the soil. Add water and wait for a few days before planting. The acids in the soil will be neutralized. Then stick your seeds in. I had tomatoes that were 7 inches in diameter. That’s a meal with hot sauce and pepper. And only one or two won’t do. They taste great. They are the only fruits that go well with hot sauce, pepper or salt.


61 posted on 12/11/2008 7:40:09 AM PST by BobS
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To: Gabz

Easier in the long run for sure.

As for cost, I’ve rooted my runners and sold them at garage sales. :)


62 posted on 12/11/2008 7:47:27 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: trisham

It reminds me of the March 93 storm that hit the whole east coast.

Forecasts are not for that kind of storm development but it sure is impressive in size.


63 posted on 12/11/2008 7:48:29 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=box&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes


64 posted on 12/11/2008 7:52:11 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Gabz

My raspberries have been some trouble but look like they’re finally established. I think they’re not quite getting the amount of sun they need but that can’t really be helped.

I bought some blueberry bushes that are supposed to be smaller in size, 2-4 feet in diameter. They are coming along now as well.

I got currants this year that just took off. We’ll see what happens with them.

I’d like to have fruit trees but don’t have the room and
we live in apple country so we can make one trip to go picking and have enough apples for a long time and for sauce for the year.

I realize that the crops are not likely to be great for a while , if ever BUT.... if it ever gets to the point where there’s a food shortage or one simply can’t get out because of gas shortages or whatever, at least we’ll have something.


65 posted on 12/11/2008 7:55:05 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Good for you!!!!! Remind me about your rooted runners in the later part of the winter!!!!

I estimated that all I needed was to sell 5 jars of strawberry jam and I covered the cost of the 30 quarts of berries I picked.


66 posted on 12/11/2008 7:58:40 AM PST by Gabz (Is a sarcasm tag really needed?)
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To: Gabz

June bearing berries are the best. You get your crop all at once and can do something with it.

A few everbearing berries are nice to have because then you can have a somewhat steady supply for snacking or fruit salad for most of the rest of the summer. Not a lot, though.

I actually planted some among my flower garden. They really are nice looking bushy little plants that fill in kind of as ground cover.


67 posted on 12/11/2008 8:03:23 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; trisham

Yikes I remember those storms of 93.

We currently have fog that is getting thicker by the minute. I’m actually dreading the phone ringing which means they will either be dismissing school early, or delaying dismissal. Roads around here are treacherous in the fog, especially when it is raining, as it is now.


68 posted on 12/11/2008 8:03:27 AM PST by Gabz (Is a sarcasm tag really needed?)
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To: Gabz

We’ve got fog but the precipitation is just south of us right now.

I expect we’ll be getting out fair share soon enough. They’re forecasting up to 7 inches of snow with the possibility of sleet mixed in.

Snow’s not a big deal around here :( but the ice I can live without.


69 posted on 12/11/2008 8:05:31 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

How about dwarf fruit trees. I’ve got one, called a fruit cocktail and if I ever get up enough money I would like to put in a bunch more trees.


70 posted on 12/11/2008 8:07:25 AM PST by Gabz (Is a sarcasm tag really needed?)
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Fog is very dangerous, especially on the highway. Are you in a mountainous area?
71 posted on 12/11/2008 8:08:02 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: metmom

I might try strawberries again, one never knows :)


72 posted on 12/11/2008 8:10:07 AM PST by Gabz (Is a sarcasm tag really needed?)
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To: metmom

I know snow is no big deal for you, but I totally agree with you about the ice. UGH.


73 posted on 12/11/2008 8:11:56 AM PST by Gabz (Is a sarcasm tag really needed?)
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To: trisham; metmom

No mountains here, in fact the joke is that if one jumps they are the highest point in the county.

We get fog very often because of all the surrounding water. I’m smack dab in the middle between the Atlantic Ocean and Chesapeake Bay — 10 miles east to one and 10 miles west to the other.

Oh well, worrying about the weather and what I’m going to plant in the spring is not getting me downstairs to the kitchen — besides, hubby is up here fiddling with the Christmas decorations and just being a nuisance, I like my alone time.

I wonder how long it is going to take him to wander downstairs and then start getting underfoot? Oh well, I’ll just come back here to the puter when he does that - like I always do :)

Later gators!


74 posted on 12/11/2008 8:15:52 AM PST by Gabz (Is a sarcasm tag really needed?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People might have to go this route to survive the Obama years.


75 posted on 12/11/2008 8:17:08 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: metmom
Plant your stuff where the sunlight is. The sun is currently getting dimmer. No solar flares. My managing engineer and another guy went to Italy for technical issues and they are freezing their asses off over there. The Mediteranian ocean and the countries there when I popped up in Spain para tres anos were warm and inviting.

Maybe those women are going to decide to put some clothes on?

76 posted on 12/11/2008 8:18:16 AM PST by BobS
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Then the Mayors of Monterey, Salinas, Pacific Grove and the county supervisors must stop using the taxpayer to fund ‘smart growth’ human storage container housing and creating off limits ‘open space’ so their political contributors don’t have to look at their neighbors, and let people build single family homes with gardens.

They need to get spines and oppose the virulent ‘greenies’, and let the people build the planned water storage systems so the county isn’t on water rationing ( I mean reservoirs, not desalination boondoggle plants).

Then maybe people can grow gardens there.


77 posted on 12/11/2008 8:18:58 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Gabz

LOL! See you soon!


78 posted on 12/11/2008 8:19:01 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: metmom
metmom see my home page. Very small garden produced more tomatoes and peppers and cukes and zukes than my wife and I could eat - shared a lot and canned and pickled a bunch.

The key to a good soil is compost. I started my compost pile weeks ago. I just pile up grass clippings and the fall leaves and turn it every so often. The winter cold will slow down the decomposition but it will continue even in the cold. Come spring it will revive. The bigger the pile the better!

79 posted on 12/11/2008 9:15:56 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d like to see a timeline since 1960 plotting these same spikes in the prices of food and health care versus the progression of government “involvement” (farm bills, medicare and all). I’ll bet they correlate about 1:1.


80 posted on 12/11/2008 9:25:31 AM PST by printhead
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