Posted on 12/10/2008 2:30:32 PM PST by Syncro
MINNESOTA BALLOTS: LAND OF TEN THOUSAND FAKES
December 10, 2008
What is the point of having a hand recount of ballots in the Minnesota Senate race if the Democratic secretary of state is going to use the election night totals in precincts where it will benefit Democrat Al Franken?
Either the hand recount produces a better, more accurate count, or there was no point to the state spending roughly $100,000 to conduct the hand recount in the first place.
But that is exactly what the George Soros-supported secretary of state has agreed to do in the case of a Dinkytown precinct near the University of Minnesota. The hand recount of the liberal precinct produced 133 fewer ballots than the original count on election night and, more important, 46 fewer votes for Franken.
So he's proposing to defer to the election night total over the recount tally.
There are no "missing" ballots in Dinkytown. Ballots were run through the voting machines twice on election night. Last week, Minneapolis elections director Cindy Reichert explained they already knew for a fact that 129 ballots had been run through machines twice on election night, which pretty closely matched the 133 allegedly "missing" ballots.
As Reichert said, "There are human errors that are made on Election Day." According to an article in the Dec. 2, 2008, St. Paul Pioneer Press, Reichert was "confident that that's what happened" and that "we have all the ballot envelopes here."
But after relentless badgering by the Franken campaign, now Reichert isn't so sure anymore. So the new plan is for Minneapolis to submit both the election night total from Dinkytown -- which gives Franken an extra 46 votes -- and the meticulous hand recount total, which does not, and allow the canvassing board to decide which to use.
Read more at AnnCoulter.Com
That is a way cool poster.
Wow. I can't agree with you on Franken, but I certainly agree with you that the Senate is a pathetic joke. I am only praying that we (decent humans) can sustain something of a firewall (filibuster) against the more egregious and disgusting of the socialist initiatives coming our way soon.
FRegards,
LH
MINNESOTA BALLOTS: LAND OF TEN THOUSAND FAKES
December 10, 2008
What is the point of having a hand recount of ballots in the Minnesota Senate race if the Democratic secretary of state is going to use the election night totals in precincts where it will benefit Democrat Al Franken?
Either the hand recount produces a better, more accurate count, or there was no point to the state spending roughly $100,000 to conduct the hand recount in the first place.
But that is exactly what the George Soros-supported secretary of state has agreed to do in the case of a Dinkytown precinct near the University of Minnesota. The hand recount of the liberal precinct produced 133 fewer ballots than the original count on election night and, more important, 46 fewer votes for Franken.
So he's proposing to defer to the election night total over the recount tally.
There are no "missing" ballots in Dinkytown. Ballots were run through the voting machines twice on election night. Last week, Minneapolis elections director Cindy Reichert explained they already knew for a fact that 129 ballots had been run through machines twice on election night, which pretty closely matched the 133 allegedly "missing" ballots.
As Reichert said, "There are human errors that are made on Election Day." According to an article in the Dec. 2, 2008, St. Paul Pioneer Press, Reichert was "confident that that's what happened" and that "we have all the ballot envelopes here."
But after relentless badgering by the Franken campaign, now Reichert isn't so sure anymore. So the new plan is for Minneapolis to submit both the election night total from Dinkytown -- which gives Franken an extra 46 votes -- and the meticulous hand recount total, which does not, and allow the canvassing board to decide which to use.
The 129 ballots that Reichert said were run through the machines twice on election night could end up being counted twice.
In all other precincts, the initial tallies from election night are treated as highly unreliable rough approximations of the actual vote, while the results from the hand recount are regarded as the absolute truth.
Only in the Dinkytown precinct, where the election night total gave Franken an additional 46 votes, does the state treat the hand recount as an error-prone joke compared to the highly accurate election night vote.
The Soros-supported Secretary of State Mark Ritchie explains that there is "precedent" for counting election night totals rather than the recount totals. If so, how about using the election night tally from some of the precincts that gave Coleman more votes on election night?
Highly implausible, post-election "corrections" in just three Democratic precincts -- Two Harbors, Mountain Iron and Partridge Township -- cost Coleman 446 votes. But I note that Ritchie doesn't propose deferring to the election night totals there.
The Minneapolis Star Tribune attributed the 436-vote "correction" in Franken's favor to "exhausted county officials." Were they more exhausted in those three precincts than in Dinkytown?
Either the post-election tally is better than the election night tally or it isn't. Cherry-picking only those election night results Ritchie likes isn't an attempt to get an accurate vote-count; it's an attempt to get a Democrat in the U.S. Senate.
If Minnesota is going to accept the election night tally from Dinkytown, why not from any of these precincts where Coleman lost votes under far more suspicious circumstances? And why are guys named "Al" always caught trying to steal elections?
Wholly apart from the outrageous inconsistency of deciding that some election night tallies trump the hand recount and some don't, Franken's miraculous acquisition of more than 500 votes from heavily Democratic precincts in post-election "corrections" wasn't believable on its face -- and that's even accounting for the fact that Franken voters tend to be stupider than average and therefore more likely to fill out their ballots incorrectly.
Corrections in all other 2008 races combined led to only 482 changes in the entire state of Minnesota. The idea that typo "corrections" in one single contest from only three precincts, out of more than 4,000 precincts, could lead to 436 "corrections" benefiting Franken is manifestly absurd.
Ritchie's proposal to accept the election night count from one precinct is a stunning admission that even he doesn't believe a hand recount is any more accurate than the original election night tally.
To be sure, endlessly recounting ballots doesn't yield more accurate results, it just creates different results. There is no reason to think a tabulation is more accurate because it occurred later in time.
But then why have a recount at all? If the state of Minnesota is going to spend $100,000 and endless man-hours to conduct a meticulous hand recount on the grounds that it is more accurate, the state ought to at least pretend to believe in its own recount.
Election recounts are never intended to get more accurate results. They are simply opportunities for Democrats to manufacture new votes and steal elections.
And once again, Republicans are asleep at the wheel while another close election is being openly stolen by the man whose contributions to western civilization include the "Planet of The Enormous Hooters" sketch on "SNL."
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Thanks much, FRiend! :-)
Election recounts are never intended to get more accurate results. They are simply opportunities for Democrats to manufacture new votes and steal elections.
Can't someone stop this outright theft?
Thanks!
Thank you. This needs to be repeated until the sheeple figure it out.
Ann Coulter Visits NYU to Deliver Predictable Stand-Up Routine
[VIDEO: apparently no "broken jaw"]
Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:33:05 AM · by RonDog · 17 replies · 930+ viewsNYU Local.com ^ | December 11, 2008 | Ned Resnikoff
Quotes from Stuart Smalley:
Im going to die homeless, penniless, and 30 pounds overweight.
Thats just stinkin thinkin!
Whining is anger through a small opening.
Im good enough, Im smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
Im a perfectionist and if I start making changes, Ill never stop.
I see zero links to back up your claims. Coulter at leat quotes a worker affiliated with the precinct.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/04/minnesota.recount/index.html
the first sentence of that article states
“A missing envelope containing about 130 ballots has stalled the recount in Minnesota’s U.S. Senate race between incumbent Republican Sen. Norm Coleman and Democrat Al Franken.”
Missing envelope according to whom? Just because CNN says there is a missing envelope does not mean there is a missing envelope.
Seems more plausible that votes were counted twice than an evelope containing only 133 envelopes goes missing.
***um, envelope containing only 133 ballots goes missing. heh
You are correct that double counting theory may seem more plausible.
But when they give people the ballots to fill out, they sign the voter book. And the number of signatures is consistent with an envelope being lost. Not to mention the election workers themselves at that precinct are claiming an envelope was lost. The election worker who “theorized” the double counting idea, she later stated that her double counting theory was in fact incorrect.
Again, I have seen no links that validate the signature hypothesis. The only precinct worker quoted has stated that some votes were counted twice.
I’m not saying I don’t believe the signature claim, but I haven’t seen the signatures nor the claim attributed to a real, live source.
“On election night there was one more signature than ballots in this precinct. Now there are 134 more signatures than ballots. Not to mention the election workers are missing one envelope full of ballots. The evidence that 133 ballots have been lost is pretty compelling.”
Please — where is your source for this?
1,047 voters signed in on the roster.
932 additional voters registered in person on Election Day.
35 absentee ballots were accepted in this precinct by the city.
15 absentee ballots were accepted in this precinct by the county.
From http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/12/missing-ballots-in-minneapolis.html
TOTAL: 2,029 voters cast legal ballots (2,028 votes are recorded on the machine tape).
TODAY: 1,896 ballots were included in the recount.
That is, a total of 2,029 voters either signed in on the registered voter roster in this precinct, registered in person on Election Day (Minnesota is one of the few states that allows you to do this), or sent in absentee ballots. This closely matches the 2,028 votes recorded in the precinct’s November 4 count, but does not so closely match the 1,896 ballots that were identified in the recount today
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