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Why must it come Down to Popular V. Patriotic: The Obama Eligibility Question?
American Chronicle ^ | December 10, 2008 | Rev. Michael Bresciani

Posted on 12/10/2008 12:19:19 PM PST by Red Steel

It´s America all over again. A few people decided to meet in a small room in Philadelphia to say they had enough British tyranny. A few people risked everything to turn Boston Harbor into a giant pot of tea. A few people have checked the constitution and have found a hitch in the outcome of the 2008 election.

From those initial illicit gatherings and conferences came the ´birth of a nation.´

Once again a small group of citizens are meeting in lawyer´s offices, on the internet and in media rooms with the National Press Club. Now it seems the participants in these meetings are clutching the Constitution and fighting to stop what they believe could be the ´death of a nation!´

A few people are willing to knock on the door of both state and Supreme Court justices to settle the question of Barack Obama´s disputable eligibility to be the 44th President of the United States. How is that going?

Undaunted by the Supreme Courts decision not to hear arguments in the Donofrio v. Wells case a volley of additional cases have been submitted to various courts across the nation that are challenging Obama´s eligibility. The "Cort Wrotnowski v. Susan Bysiewicz" case is taking up the lead.

A conference on whether the Wrotnowski case will be heard is scheduled in the Supreme Court for Friday December 12, 2008. Lawyers in that case have had more time to prepare. The arguments similar to those in the Berg case and the wording have improved significantly.

More than a dozen other cases dealing with Barack Obama´s eligibility are under scrutiny in various courts around the nation and the interest in these cases is growing.

What is most disconcerting is the willingness of the main stream media to ignore the issue or wait until it busts wide open to give it any coverage. Words like "fringe" are popping up to describe anyone connected to the accountability movement that wants the Constitution to be enforced.

At the moment it looks like one of America´s greatest examples of the "double standard." We want our President Elect to stand with his hand on the Bible and swear to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States but we are willing to call the average citizen who questions Barack Obama´s compliance with the constitutions requirement that Presidents be natural born citizens "the fringe"

If those who are calling for the proof of constitutional requirements are indeed on the fringe they are in good company. They have the signers of the Declaration of Independence and those from the Boston Tea Party as compatriots and their cause is in every way just as important.

World Net Daily one of the internets most popular news and commentary sites has taken another approach which has begun to draw media attention. Beside the 60,000 letters already delivered to the Supreme Court, WND has submitted over 2,000 letters from their readers directly to members of the Electoral College. They are appealing to the better judgment of the electorates to consider that they may be creating a constitutional crisis like none in our entire history by casting their votes for a candidate that has not been properly vetted as required by law.

The WND´s front door approach may seem more like the ride of Paul Revere rather than the customary advance through the halls of justice but we all know that Revere was highly successful in preparing our young country to defend itself in its days as a fledgling nation.

The arguments seen in the press, the blogs and all over the internet are full of sound and fury but they are signifying something. If they were court cases they might read like "Popular v. Patriot" or Supremes v. the Supercilious. The least funny of all might be "the President Elect v. U.S. Soldier" this one is mine and I am happy to explain exactly what I mean.

The President Elect, the Supreme Court justices and the ordinary soldier share a commonality. They all must take an oath of allegiance to the United States in which they must swear to uphold and defend the constitution. This raises a very important, howbeit, often not asked question. Which of them has the most to gain or lose by swearing this noble oath? Let´s see.

Barack Obama obviously has the most to gain in that after he takes the oath of office he will become the leader of the world´s most powerful western nation. If it were proven that he is ineligible to sit in the Oval Office because of questions about his citizenship then all he may lose is a little face.

The Supreme Court justices would gain only the respect of the nation for impartially deciding that the constitution is being upheld. They will lose almost nothing doing the job they have been appointed to do except a little private time and r&r but hey, that´s why it´s called "public service."

US servicemen have to gain only the love and respect they totally deserve for their sacrifice and service to their country.

By far our servicemen have the most to lose in their promise to uphold and defend the constitution. If they should tour in theater and return without incident they will have already lost time from their own private lives. Their families will lose precious time with their loved ones and their jobs, careers or callings will have been set on hold.

Yet the highest possible loss faces every serviceman or woman 24/7, 365 days a year. They may at any time be asked to sacrifice their lives for this nation and its constitution. Some may be in harms way and have already suffered this loss even as I write.

The question this raises must not go unanswered. Can we ask our young men and women to put their lives up to defend and uphold our constitution and not expect the Supreme Court justices to at least look at the Obama eligibility question? Can we at the very least ask our President Elect to provide certain proof that he is in compliance with our nation´s most important document as well?

The answer to this question should be an unequivocal and resounding yes. It should be the "yes" of every citizen in the continental United States and not one of them should ever be referred to as the "fringe." While it may be an insult to call any man a fringe case, it would rise to the level of sacrilegious to include our servicemen and women in that group.

Since they may at any time be called upon to pay the ultimate price to uphold the constitution perhaps we should be asking their opinions about the matter as quickly as we can!


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: 911truthers; bho2008; birthcertificate; blackhelicopters; certifigate; conspiracytheories; lawsuit; nirther; nutobamatrollsdaily; tinfoilhats; wingnutdaily; wrotnowski
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1 posted on 12/10/2008 12:19:19 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Puh-leeze. Comparing a band of WingNutDaily loons to the Founders of the Republic??

Yeah, maybe if Paul Revere had ridden through the countryside yelling "The Martians are coming!"

2 posted on 12/10/2008 12:29:10 PM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Red Steel
Constitution shmonstitution.

Barrack Obama don't need no stinking Constitution.

He knows better than all the Founding Fathers and every president or judge that has preceded him, and will fix that "fundamentally flawed" document to say whatever he feels like it should say.

3 posted on 12/10/2008 12:31:33 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Red Steel
It should be the "yes" of every citizen in the continental United States and not one of them should ever be referred to as the "fringe."

What about the people of Hawaii?

4 posted on 12/10/2008 12:32:22 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

You may think you’re joking, or being hyperbolic,

but really, this IS how they think.

The founders... heck, anyone that passes a law or ratifies a Constitution or amendment, temporally (in time), cannot by definition have the information available to today’s decision makers,

who therefore should not be held to the restrictions imposed by people having less information than today’s decision makers.

Thomas Sowell, Conflict of Visions, page 81:
http://books.google.com/books?id=NwrWDM8FW04C&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq=%22conflict+of+visions%22+intertemporal&source=web&ots=bH_xvtMD46&sig=2E04Fpgl2pFcEE0rMKLAPe6bFPI&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA81,M1


5 posted on 12/10/2008 12:37:22 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: steve-b
Puh-leeze. Comparing a band of WingNutDaily loons to the Founders of the Republic??

Yeah, maybe if Paul Revere had ridden through the countryside yelling "The Martians are coming!"

You are not that far off.

It was World Net Daily founder Joseph Farah who goes around yelling "Pterodactyls are on this very day, flying above the skies of Africa and Asia!"

6 posted on 12/10/2008 12:37:53 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Red Steel

The people who are fighting for this issue to be heard are patriots in the truest sense of the word.

God speed to them.


7 posted on 12/10/2008 12:37:58 PM PST by stockpirate (2009 year of the tax revolt. Two arms, two arms, the socialists are coming.....burp.)
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To: Red Steel

Our founding fathers faced hanging for a chance to create the constitution. I can face ridicule at the hands of constitutional cowards to defend it.


8 posted on 12/10/2008 12:38:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: steve-b
Yeah, maybe if Paul Revere had ridden through the countryside yelling "The Martians are coming!"

Best line of the day!

I am skeptical on both sides of the "natural born citizen" debate ... mostly because there is no sensible reason (other than a serious flaw in the certificate, if it even exists) for Obama to keep the real birth certificate locked up ... but WND is one of the few sources that I trust even less than I trust Dan Rather.

9 posted on 12/10/2008 12:39:50 PM PST by MathDoc (War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Obama is Good.)
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To: cripplecreek

bttt


10 posted on 12/10/2008 12:40:39 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: stockpirate; trumandogz; steve-b
To the skeptics, answer the question:
Can we ask our young men and women to put their lives up to defend and uphold our constitution and not expect the Supreme Court justices to at least look at the Obama eligibility question? Can we at the very least ask our President Elect to provide certain proof that he is in compliance with our nation´s most important document as well?
11 posted on 12/10/2008 1:05:44 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa

I have faith that the Four Strict Constructionists on the SCOTUS will uphold the Constitution.

If you believe that those justices are not upholding the Constitution, you can ask your U.S. Senator to introduce a resolution to impeach Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Alito.

Does that sound like a good idea to you?


12 posted on 12/10/2008 1:12:02 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: iopscusa

To carry your arguement even further.

Shouldn’t we expect the leaders of our OWN FREAKING party to question his COLB?

Shouldn’t we expect our conservative members of the media to question this or EVEN DISCUSS it on the air?

Where is Rush? Where is Sean? Where is Laura? Where is Mark?

Cowards all, I refuse to listen to them or watch them again.


13 posted on 12/10/2008 1:12:53 PM PST by stockpirate (2009 year of the tax revolt. Two arms, two arms, the socialists are coming.....burp.)
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To: iopscusa

The crux of it is, he knew about the laws and lied.


14 posted on 12/10/2008 1:14:17 PM PST by Tomato lover (How happy would our world be if men either knew more or practically knew how little they know.)
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To: steve-b
Puh-leeze. Comparing a band of WingNutDaily loons to the Founders of the Republic??

There's probably more of an apt comparison there, than to the Nirther loons over at LGF. They're afraid of being mocked. So they mock. Very brave.

15 posted on 12/10/2008 1:18:48 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: stockpirate
Shouldn’t we expect the leaders of our OWN FREAKING party to question his COLB?

No, our own candidate had the same problem, hence that weird little quid pro quo back in April, known as SR 511.

16 posted on 12/10/2008 1:21:18 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: stockpirate
The people who are fighting for this issue to be heard are patriots in the truest sense of the word.

Tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy kooks are seldom patriotic. That fact that they're in bed with a Hillary Clinton supporting 9-11 truther raises a red flag.

17 posted on 12/10/2008 1:22:45 PM PST by curiosity
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To: steve-b
Puh-leeze. Comparing a band of WingNutDaily loons to the Founders of the Republic??

At the risk of being branded a loon, I believe the Supreme Court owes the country their time and effort in putting this issue to bed once and for all.

There is enough question on both sides of the issue.

The Supreme Court Justices should not be COWARDS by letting this issue pass without action and comment on their part.

First it sets a bad precedent for similar future issues that the Court will not touch it. Second, if any solid and real evidence came out later that Barry Obama were not eligible, all hell could break loose. The time for Court review and comment is before he takes office, not after.

These are not "normal times", and the Supreme Court should do something to help prevent a future problem.

18 posted on 12/10/2008 1:23:56 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Red Steel

So we should all take Obama’s word on this - even though he refuses to show his birth certificate.


19 posted on 12/10/2008 1:28:42 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: curiosity
That fact that they're in bed with a Hillary Clinton supporting 9-11 truther raises a red flag.

By the same logic, you're in bed with Obama. Talk about raising a red flag.

20 posted on 12/10/2008 1:29:58 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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