Posted on 12/10/2008 9:32:36 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF
Study: Half of warming due to Sun! –Sea Levels Fail to Rise? - Warming Fears in 'Dustbin of History'
POZNAN, Poland - The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. Set for release this week, a newly updated U.S. Senate Minority Report features the dissenting voices of over 650 international scientists, many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN. The report has added about 250 scientists (and growing) in 2008 to the over 400 scientists who spoke out in 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.
...Full Report Set To Be Released in the Next 24 Hours – Stay Tuned…
A hint of what the upcoming report contains:
“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.
“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”
Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh....
(Excerpt) Read more at epw.senate.gov ...
You, me, and who else?
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Pass the link to everyone you know and ask them to do the same.
One of the biggest problems we ‘deniers’ face is that few real facts are ever given by the AGW crowd. This is intentional, of course. For instance, they throw around labels like ‘green’ and ‘clean’ but never define them. It can be demonstrated that the atmosphere is ‘cleaner’ today that it has been in decades (in the U.S.), if not centuries (parts of Europe). How can something like CO2, necessary for life itself, be labeled ‘dirty’? It boggles the mind.
I’ve come up with (what I think is) a simple, understandable-by-anyone concept to explain why folks should stop being ‘afraid’ of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere.
Here’s line of thinking:
Question1:
What are the molecules that compose air? Name them in order of most-to-least abundant.
Answer:
Nitrogen, Oxygen, Water, Argon, Carbon Dioxide, and Other.
Question2:
If you take a random (or average) sampling of 10,000 molecules of air and assume that each molecule is worth a penny, how much would each of the different components of the air be worth?
(Note: 10,000 pennies is the same as $100.00. If you couch the discussion in dollars and cents rather than, say, PPM - folks will have an easier time grasping the numbers. Even a second grader understands completely the difference between a $20. bill and 4 pennies.)
Answer:
Nitrogen: $77.00
Oxygen: $20.00 (animals NEED this to live)
Water: $ 2.00 (this is the ‘real’ GHG)
Argon: $ 0.95 (that’s right, 25x the amount of CO2)
CO2: 4 cents (plants NEED this to live)
Other: 1 penny
Question3:
As you’ve heard, Humans have pumped MASSIVE amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere, yet it only makes up 4 cents of the entire $100.00 of the atmosphere. (That’s 4 CO2 molecules per 10,000 air molecules). How much of these 4 cents worth of CO2 has been added by Humans?
Answer:
1 penny. (280ppm to 380ppm)
Question4:
Let’s say that Humans had subtracted a penny’s worth of CO2 from the $100.00 worth of our entire atmosphere, instead of adding CO2. What would be the impact?
Answer:
Plants would be severly impacted and dying.
There are many more points that can be made. For instance, if we continue to pump out CO2, we can probably only push the concentration of CO2 to about 5-6 cent’s worth. Also, the threshold level of CO2 above which the MSDS suggests CO2 becomes a problem for workers is 50 cents worth (5000ppm) - more than 10x the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Anyhow, you get the idea.
Feel free to steal the concept, if you find it useful...
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I must admit that I have slacked off a bit from when I was printing and saving everyday and apparently missed the point where they began officially counting for cycle 24; never was sure if the Jan 4th 08 spot #981 was declared a 24 spot or not but from there to 1009 I guess 17 spots were ruled 23 types.
Either way, there has been darned few lately and still deserve watching.
“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly”
Who would of thought?
Another story that the MSM will not report or will bury in the back pages. Does not agree with their agenda.
Greenhouse gases are not “bad”. They are essential. If there were no greenhouse gases, the earth would be far too cold for humans. By the way, CO2 is only present in trace amounts - the latest estimate being about 380 parts per million. Water vapor is far more common.
The media, politicians, and the public are generally ignorant of basic facts. Those who talk about “fighting climate change” are airheads tilting at windmills. If they want to “fight” climate change, then they had best figure out a way to control the sun’s activity. The recent absence of sun spots suggests we may be in for “global cooling” despite all the noise being made about warming.
It’s Big Brother math: 2 + 2 = 5.
This is gonna piss off Pelosi and Company who are heavily invested in the “green energy” markets.
This also puts a thorn in Obama’s “economic recovery” plan to make America Green.
There is the immediate reward of “study funding” -
but the real goal of promoting AGW is that it is a vehicle to global socialism.
If the AGW vehicle doesn’t work for them, they’ll try something else.
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Is there more information on this conference? Is it available to the public?
We'll all be paying for this scam for decades to come, if not longer. In the West we'll end up paying for carbon offset scams, excessive regulation, jobs destroyed and jobs never created. In poorer parts of the world it will be worse. At a certain level "Global Warming" is a regressive tax that targets the poor.
“CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.
Agreed. And deadly dihydrogen oxide, which exists in the atmosphere in concentrations eight times as great as carbon dioxide kills thousands of people and causes billions of dollars in environmental damage every year!
If we are going to ban a greenhouse gas, I say we should ban this one! (Or at least dilute it by mixing it with 45% ethanol before drinking it.)
I suspect a lot of readers don’t know you are talking about WATER. :)-
Haven’t these morons heard the debate is over! /sarcasm
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