U.S. Civil Defense:
Don't let Obama make us like England, cowering before crime.
Posted on 12/10/2008 8:56:24 AM PST by george76
GANGS of violent armed robbers are bringing terror to Manchester's suburbs. Raiders carrying frightening weapons have struck twice at homes in north Manchester this week.
Police sources said there had been around five other attacks in recent months.
In the latest incident three masked thugs, armed with a pickaxe, an axe, and a baseball bat, burst into a couple's home ...and demanded cash.
A 61-year-old man was struck in the back with the axe blade after his wife, also 61, was attacked in the kitchen as she dialled 999. It is the second time that the couple have been attacked in the last seven months.
there has been a spate of similar robberies in the area recently...
the woman was in the kitchen when the three men kicked their way in through the front door ... She managed to activate a panic alarm despite one of the robbers trying to smash it with the bat. She then tried to dial 999 but the robber grabbed the phone out of her hand and shoved her to the ground.
She managed to get her mobile and call police after running into the back garden. Her husband, who was upstairs at the time, was confronted by the axeman on the stairs. It is believed that he wrestled with the robber before he was struck.
The gang fled with a small amount of cash.
"We continue to ask residents to remain vigilant."
(Excerpt) Read more at manchestereveningnews.co.uk ...
U.S. Civil Defense:
Don't let Obama make us like England, cowering before crime.
Maybe if Britain bans guns again,it will stop all this crime. Because we all know that guns cause crime.
It would have to be 2004 before Christie moved home. I recall it was just a few months before she left.
Just out of curiosity, did she smuggle it in or did she have contacts in the UK that she got it off? I’ve always thought it was quite difficult to get an illegal gun in the UK unless you knew some serious criminal players in the underworld....
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It's fortunate that all guns are banned, otherwise there'd be real violence. /sarc
God created man....Sam Colt made ‘em equal.
There was an English farmer that used a shotgun inside his home defending himself from a group of similar violent burglars. He shot one or two of them (not sure if they died or not). The farmer got sent to prison. It’s nuts!
Here’s the event I was talking about. Other headlines indicated that the use of a firearm in self defense is not okay in England!
In 1999, Tony Martin, a 55-year-old Norfolk farmer living alone in a shabby farmhouse, awakened to the sound of breaking glass as two burglars, both with long criminal records, burst into his home. He had been robbed six times before, and his village, like 70 percent of rural English communities, had no police presence.
He sneaked downstairs with a shotgun and shot at the intruders. Martin received life in prison for killing one burglar, 10 years for wounding the second, and a year for having an unregistered shotgun. The wounded burglar, having served 18 months of a three- year sentence, is now free and has been granted £5,000 of legal assistance to sue Martin.
Well, there was a difference there, Tony Martin shot them from behind as they were trying to flee empty-handed. I can guarantee you that if this elderly couple had shot an axe-wielding burglar in their living room, they wouldn’t have been charged, and there certainly wouldn’t have been a jury in the land that would have convicted them.....
Opps. Put away the shotgun and use a cap gun to scare them away in England and your are STILL in trouble!:
In 1994, an English homeowner, armed with a toy gun, managed to detain two burglars who had broken into his house while he called the police. When the officers arrived, they arrested the homeowner for using an imitation gun to threaten or intimidate.
In a similar incident the following year, when an elderly woman fired a toy cap pistol to drive off a group of youths who were threatening her, she was arrested for putting someone in fear. Now the police are pressing Parliament to make imitation guns illegal.
Opps. Put away the shotgun and use a cap gun to scare them away in England and your are STILL in trouble!:
In 1994, an English homeowner, armed with a toy gun, managed to detain two burglars who had broken into his house while he called the police. When the officers arrived, they arrested the homeowner for using an imitation gun to threaten or intimidate.
In a similar incident the following year, when an elderly woman fired a toy cap pistol to drive off a group of youths who were threatening her, she was arrested for putting someone in fear. Now the police are pressing Parliament to make imitation guns illegal.
And the legal action against martin by the surviving burglar was quite rightly thrown uncermoniously out of court by an incredulous judge....
Well, as the saying goes, better to be judged by 6 than carried by 12...
I hadn’t heard that - good! Not that it matters much to Mr. Martin I suppose if he is still in prison. Or perhaps some reasonable judge could suspend his sentence?
A shotgun usually ends this kind of disturbance, in my experience.
He’s been out of prison for a while, his offence was reduced to manslaughter and he was released after serving 3 years of a 5 year sentence. I think that was a fair and reasonable sentence balancing the fact that he had been targetted for burglaries before, and they were burglars, with the fact that they were running away and he no longer had the self-defence justification neccessary to gun them down without consequence...
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