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Buffalo's strategy of giving handouts to hotels questioned
Buffalo News ^ | 12/08/08 | James Heaney

Posted on 12/08/2008 6:24:55 PM PST by george76

For nearly 30 years, politicians have poured more than $65 million into downtown Buffalo hotels — an average of more than $50,000 per room. The strategy produced five hotels — and a lot of red ink.

Some of downtown’s largest hotel operators say the last thing they need is more competition, especially subsidized competitors.

But that’s exactly the course City Hall is pursuing.

One heavily subsidized hotel is under construction, and development agencies in the last month have approved two others that would involve significant tax breaks. The new projects would increase the inventory of downtown hotel rooms by 22 percent.

“The industry as a whole is not doing well, certainly not when everyone is looking for government handouts.”

At play is a disconnect between those in the trenches of the hospitality industry and the politicians dangling the subsidies, along with the developers who would benefit from them.

“Buffalo does not need another hotel in this market,” said Paul L. Snyder, owner of the Hyatt Regency Buffalo.

Richard Geiger, president of the Buffalo Niagara Convention & Visitors Bureau, said that more rooms would not help bolster the convention and tourism business.

“Based on current market demand, we have a sufficient number of rooms in the downtown core,” he said.

David Hart, downtown’s longest-tenured hotel operator, said it’s time the industry stood on its own two feet.

“Isn’t it time for the subsidies to stop?” said Hart, who operates the Holiday Inn on Delaware Avenue. “Should we be subsidizing a market that hasn’t seen real growth?”

Said Hart: “If the market is really there, you don’t need public assistance. And if it’s not there, don’t build.

“All you do is hurt the hotels already in the market, and that’s what’s been happening for 20 years.”

(Excerpt) Read more at buffalonews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: government; governmenthandouts; handouts

1 posted on 12/08/2008 6:24:55 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

The only thing that would get me to go into downtown Buffalo would be jury duty.


2 posted on 12/08/2008 6:30:52 PM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless the USA)
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To: george76

Follow the money.


3 posted on 12/08/2008 6:38:14 PM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: george76; neverdem

This is exactly why we filed a Lawsuit against Albany to stop this.


Mother of All Taxpayer Lawsuits
Three Men in a Courtroom
December 3rd Albany

Buffalo, New York, November 24, 2008. Many people talk about doing something to cut taxes in New York. Fifty brave New Yorkers actually did something about it. They hired a lawyer and sued the entire political establishment in the state—the governor, the comptroller and the state legislature—to end corporate welfare. Bordeleau v. State of New York, Albany Co. Index No. 6582-08. Each year, the state hands out over a billion dollars of your tax money to wealthy corporations for “economic development.” Not only has this failed to help the economy but it is illegal under the plain language of the State Constitution:

“The money of the state shall not be given or loaned to or in aid of any private corporation or association, or private undertaking.” Article VII, § 8. 1.

The defendants retained hired five large law firms to oppose them and they argued that the constitution doesn’t mean what it says.

On December 3rd, in Albany, Hon. Michael C. Lynch will hear argument on the defendants’ motions to dismiss. Ostrowski and several plaintiffs will lead a Tax Revolt Convoy from Buffalo at 6:00 a.m. (Exit 49, Park & Ride, Transit Rd., Depew). A people’s rally in support of the lawsuit will be held on the Capitol steps at noon. Oral argument of the case is at 1:30 p.m. across the street at 16 Eagle St.

The success of this lawsuit could save the taxpayers tens of billions of dollars in the coming years and pave the way for the outright repeal of the oppressive New York gas tax of 32.4 cents per gallon.

Read all the case documents online at:
http://blog.jimostrowski.com/?page_id=1110

Keep up with news about the case at http://blog.jimostrowski.com/?cat=20


4 posted on 12/08/2008 6:43:38 PM PST by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: george76

Seems like a sad strategy - building hotel rooms for non-existent travellers in the hopes that if the rooms are just nice enough people will flock to the city.


5 posted on 12/08/2008 6:45:37 PM PST by purplelobster
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To: purplelobster

The demand for hotel rooms is not there, or even worse : declining .

Another waste of taxpayer money.


6 posted on 12/08/2008 6:49:43 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: purplelobster

oh, what the hell. let’s turn it into a project - move the homeless & brothers in there - give em 10 yrs to destroy the places & we can start over again

only in america


7 posted on 12/08/2008 6:52:01 PM PST by She hits a grand slam tonight
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To: purplelobster

Downtown Buffalo after sundown is more dangerous than the South Bronx at midnight. The fact is there is no longer a reason for Buffalo to exist. It is a failed socialist experiment that has been going down the tubes since the ‘30’s. Every government attempt to revive the city has just made things worse. The fact is that very few people really want to live in the place. If you want tundra and winter desolation, Alaska will be much more to your liking. Young people, once they become adults flea the place like rats fleeing a tenement fire. Downtown is a disaster area, every major department store has fled.

The only thing that could possibly help would be to declare the entire city a federal and state tax free zone.


8 posted on 12/08/2008 6:54:18 PM PST by appeal2 (Brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but great stupidity is reserved for the Gov't)
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To: george76

Next step: the socialists (communists) will want to require Americans to take their vacations in downtown Buffalo to fill up these hotels.


9 posted on 12/08/2008 7:01:08 PM PST by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security. Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: The Mayor

thanks, bfl


10 posted on 12/08/2008 8:46:17 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: george76

Interesting, I forwarded to my husband who is an auditor for the State of NY.


11 posted on 12/08/2008 11:11:05 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: appeal2

Actually this is the case for all upstate cities. Rochester and Syracuse are not much better.

And true to form, the democRATS have had a lock on the city government for years and the city looks like Zimbabwe or some other 3rd world socialist hell-hole.

Buffalo was once a great city. Steel, railroads, oil refining, grain mills and automobiles. Now it’s just two banks, M&T and HSBC which is chinese owned.


12 posted on 12/09/2008 7:10:59 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Never underestimate the ability of a liberal to deny reality and attempt to change the rules to do s)
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To: Ouderkirk
HSBC is actually HQ in London and is not Chinese owned.

HSBC has made a very good living with off shore accounts, financing Hong Kong and Red China through the years.

HSBC purchased part of Wells Fargo and acquired control of lots of real estate, plus the naming rights to the Buffalo Sabres hockey arena.

13 posted on 12/09/2008 7:59:59 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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