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Wall Street Bonus Picture Goes From Bad to Worse
CNBC ^ | 12/5/2008 | Staff

Posted on 12/05/2008 11:47:46 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

With each passing day, the forecast for Wall Street bonuses only grows worse. In less than two weeks, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs will tell their bankers and traders how much they will receive in annual bonuses for one of the worst years ever for the securities industry. Bonuses represent the bulk of a Wall Streeter's compensation and in a good year could reach anywhere from $500,000 to several million dollars for a top producer.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamanomics; shariahfinance
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Why are bonuses even being considered? For performance????

If you take taxpayer monies, you should forfeit the ability to get bonuses. Period.

1 posted on 12/05/2008 11:47:46 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA
Increased crying from New York state and city governments starting in 5...4...3...
2 posted on 12/05/2008 11:48:49 AM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Gee I didn’t know it was the American Way to pass out multi-million dollar bonuses to executives of companies who lose billions.


3 posted on 12/05/2008 11:50:05 AM PST by Boiling Pots (Anthony Kennedy: The 2nd most important person in Government 2009-2013. Pray for his good health.)
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To: KarlInOhio

So by “worse”, they actually mean BETTER...


4 posted on 12/05/2008 11:50:18 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Exactly. My retirement funds got wiped out. As far as I’m concerned they did me a crappy job this year. A bonus is for a job well done, which they didn’t do.

If they were waiters I’d not leave a tip; just a note on a napkin telling them why they were stiffed.


5 posted on 12/05/2008 11:50:30 AM PST by henkster (It's time for a conservative "long march through the institutions.")
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To: Red in Blue PA; Shermy

Not to be a total cynic, but I don’t buy it.

They’ll finesse a way.

Just a little disinfo to throw off the proles.


6 posted on 12/05/2008 11:52:11 AM PST by swarthyguy (*Bush Promised us Osama, instead we're getting Obama*)
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To: swarthyguy

You got that right.


7 posted on 12/05/2008 11:53:45 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

They will claim they need to keep their top performers, but there are a couple of hundred thousand laid off people who could fill those positions, and their top performers were likely the ones who created the schemes that got them into this in the first place.


8 posted on 12/05/2008 11:55:04 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Red in Blue PA

Got that right.


9 posted on 12/05/2008 11:57:31 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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They will claim they need to keep their top performers

Bah! Where are those schmucks going to go to earn that kind of Pay? Let 'em go if they have so many job opportunities.

10 posted on 12/05/2008 12:00:03 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Badeye

LOL, we agree but I bet you look upon that admiringly :>>


11 posted on 12/05/2008 12:02:29 PM PST by swarthyguy (*Bush Promised us Osama, instead we're getting Obama*)
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Their “top performers” got us into this mess! What is with the argument of not losing the “top talent”? Losing them should be Job #1.

A monkey could probably get better results than these einstein’s did. And all they want are bananas!


12 posted on 12/05/2008 12:03:21 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Little known fact: Barack Obama translated into Kenyan means "Jimmy Carter")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Well, it’s not only bonuses that are going from bad to worse, it’s the economy that’s going from bad to worse. Expect the coming Great Depression, again...


13 posted on 12/05/2008 12:04:18 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Vince Ferrer

If a housekeeper or a nanny performed to the level of these Welfare Queens, you’d have them arrested.


14 posted on 12/05/2008 12:05:00 PM PST by swarthyguy (*Bush Promised us Osama, instead we're getting Obama*)
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No, actually I don’t. I suppose you know I’m a small biz owner, hence the ‘admiringly’ comment.

My biz partner and I haven’t taken a bonus from our company - cash dispersement - since 2002. Better things to do with the cash, like Christmas bonus’s for the staff that actually makes this company work, for just one example.

As it relates to these huge corporations that routinely give bonus’s to top management while losing millions and sometimes BILLIONS....screw that. Its insanity.

Its also why I’ve been against ALL the ‘bailouts’ from day one, and as events are showing, that was the correct position from day one.


15 posted on 12/05/2008 12:05:41 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Who are these “top performers?” Does anyone’s 401(k) show a net increase in value so far this year?


16 posted on 12/05/2008 12:07:17 PM PST by Cecily
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Why are bonuses even being considered? For performance????

If you take taxpayer monies, you should forfeit the ability to get bonuses. Period.

I was think it would be better if they returned the bonus they did not earn in the past years.

17 posted on 12/05/2008 12:12:02 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: Badeye

It was an assumption on my part based on prior interactions.

That’s why the old saw about assume rings true.

Shermy and I were commiserating that if McCain had come out table thumping against the Bailout, triangulated away from Obama and Bush/Pelosi/Paulson/Reid, he could have established a real differential.

But WhatIf’s are amusing, that’s all.


18 posted on 12/05/2008 12:15:32 PM PST by swarthyguy (*Bush Promised us Osama, instead we're getting Obama*)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I only get a bonus if my company makes a profit. Why should they be any different?


19 posted on 12/05/2008 12:17:33 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: swarthyguy

‘Shermy and I were commiserating that if McCain had come out table thumping against the Bailout, triangulated away from Obama and Bush/Pelosi/Paulson/Reid, he could have established a real differential.’

Exactly what I thought. Had McCain back the House GOP to the hilt, things might have been different.

But I don’t know that McCain would have been much better, given the way he caves to liberal democrats, and trashes Republicans of a conservative stripe.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. McCain lost the election on September 15th, 2008 in my view.


20 posted on 12/05/2008 12:23:23 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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