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SCOTUS Re: Obama....Live Thread

Posted on 12/05/2008 6:33:15 AM PST by maineman

I thought we should have a link to post any and all updates.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho; birth; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; donofrio; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; obamatruthsquad; odinga; scotus
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I think the SCOTUS would just as soon pass on all these cases. These are political cases and the court probably thinks there needs to be a political solution to them.


581 posted on 12/05/2008 12:22:52 PM PST by flyfree
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To: pissant

I’d like them to lump them all together so we have full coverage.


582 posted on 12/05/2008 12:22:52 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

“It’s past 3 o’clock Eastern so when are we suppose to get word on this case?”

My thought is, and we should start this mantra right now...it doesn’t matter WHEN the truth is uncovered. O bears 100% of the responsibility for misleading the public. Not the SOS, not the RNC, not anyone else. O is in a position of knowledge, being a constitutional ‘scholar’ and all. He knows EXACTLY what is going to happen. It is HIS FAULT 100% if there is any disruption in the governing of our great nation. It is OBAMA’s FAULT 100% if there are riots, if the country is paralyzed by a constitutional crisis and if anyone else becomes POTUS. It is 100% Obama’s fault and no one else’s.


583 posted on 12/05/2008 12:24:07 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Red Steel

That would be the best.


584 posted on 12/05/2008 12:24:10 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: etraveler13

So Obama’s own site has posted new FactCheck verbage. That’s very interesting.


585 posted on 12/05/2008 12:24:25 PM PST by aphid
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To: MHGinTN

Set up an escrow account, I don’t care. My offer stands and I’m giving my word. That should be good enough. I’m not going to run off over a few dollars.

I don’t have any agenda at all, other than to expose the folks that are acting like this is some sort of legitimate possibility. I’m traveling next week, but I’ll try and ping you when cert’s denied anyway.


586 posted on 12/05/2008 12:24:38 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Red Steel; Mazeman

This election should teach all of us that labels really don’t matter. So, we are all loons? BFD! Who cares.


587 posted on 12/05/2008 12:25:06 PM PST by austinaero
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To: so_real

good point...besides, justice is supposed to be “blind”. Justices are not supposed to take into account social reaction to their rulings. Their job is to make sure the law, in this cse the COnstitution, is applied.


588 posted on 12/05/2008 12:26:03 PM PST by SerafinQ
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To: MHGinTN; Publius Valerius; Jim Robinson

But don’t discourage him! I want to see those contracts opened on Intrade. Once you put the money up, the fish can’t hide.


589 posted on 12/05/2008 12:26:25 PM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Kenya believe how much O has stalled on this?


590 posted on 12/05/2008 12:27:10 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Publius Valerius

I don’t have any agenda at all, other than to expose the folks that are acting like this is some sort of legitimate possibility. I’m traveling next week, but I’ll try and ping you when cert’s denied anyway.

The really cool thing about Justice Thomas is, he believes in educating the litigants about the actions of the court. It could be that even if this particular complaint does not go forward, Thomas or others, may articulate why it didn’t fly and how it could be brought again under ‘correct’ procedures. We can’t take a “NO” as a definite. It’s just a learning process. My momma taught me that usually “NO” means “not now.” I think in most cases, she was right.


591 posted on 12/05/2008 12:27:59 PM PST by austinaero
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To: hankbrown
If Berg has this real birth certificate, I assume he could post it on the Internet, get as many television interviews as he wished, submit it to state secretaries of state, etc. I doubt that he would just put it in a drawer and hope from a miracle from the Supreme Court.

Plan "A": Go through the proper legal channels with dignity and decorum.

Plan "B": Post it on the Internet, mass mail emails, publish in the papers, cause as much embarrassment, confusion, uproar among the people. etc etc etc.

Plan "C": Anarchy: Riots etc etc etc.

592 posted on 12/05/2008 12:28:15 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Red Steel

It seems to me that no news is good news.


593 posted on 12/05/2008 12:28:59 PM PST by zeebee
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To: MHGinTN
Wow! I'd say the democrat party has known all along that the affirmativea ction candidate was ineligible on Constitutional requirements and has sought o perpetrate a fraud on the American people. Why?

My guess is that Barry Soetoro, aka Baraq Hussein 0bama, sat down over drinks with his radical buddies a long time ago, and as a professor of Constitutional Law figured out that they could "end run" the natural born clause in the Constitution, because no one is quite sure what it means. They knew that once the election were held, the SCOTUS would not reverse the results of an election, except with the most convincing evidence. One Hussein made his trip to see his dying granny [seal his BC], he was home free.

594 posted on 12/05/2008 12:30:08 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (NO Usurpers in the White House - NObama)
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To: Publius Valerius
I’m saying that the Supreme Court will not weigh in on this issue because of the absurdly huge ramifications involved, particularly when there is a political resolution to the problem, if one even exists.

And I say that the huge ramification that will occur if they do NOT weigh in, should it be discovered at a later date that indeed, 0bama did not meet the requirements to be elected to the office, yet was allowed to hold it for whatever reason means that ANY citizen may also ignore ANY portion of the Constitution at his whim. This would be a terrible precedent to set.

595 posted on 12/05/2008 12:30:28 PM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: hoosiermama
Welp, somebody, somewhere needs to be responsible for the vetting of presidential candidates. When the voice of even a single citizen questioning the requirement for legitimate validation of a canidates qualifications has been refused, then heads need to roll off every single responsible person from the top to the bottom of the process. If it doesn't happen, then our constitution states the rights and responsibilities of citizens toward that said government.

I don't give a flying fig whose responsibility it is at this point, we are way beyond that stage. Now, it is time to get substantiated answers. And educate the entire population... citizens or not... as to what this government is set up to be, one way or another. Lines have been drawn in the sand, that is the bottom line.

596 posted on 12/05/2008 12:31:15 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Way to go BARNEY!! Barney for White House Press Secretary.)
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To: so_real

This may have already been asked in this and other threads but why can’t the SCOTUS take the matter of BO’s eligibity on their own accord?

Isn’t that what checks and balances between 3 Co-equal branches of gubbermint are for?

Isn’t it the SCOTUS’ duty to make sure Congress and The President/President-elect follow the Constitution?

Why do cases have to be submitted(to SCOTUS) for them to apply the Supreme Law of the Land to themselves, Congress, or the President?


597 posted on 12/05/2008 12:31:41 PM PST by Electric Graffiti
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To: MozarkDawg
should it be discovered at a later date that indeed, 0bama did not meet the requirements to be elected to the office, yet was allowed to hold it for whatever reason means that ANY citizen may also ignore ANY portion of the Constitution at his whim.

No, because there would be a political solution; he would be removed from office and the Vice-President would be sworn in. I don't think that would be a particularly big deal at all, because it would undoubtedly follow a large Congressional investigation in which everything would laid bare, unlike, say, a Supreme Court ruling.

598 posted on 12/05/2008 12:32:55 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Red Steel

Monday


599 posted on 12/05/2008 12:34:06 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: austinaero
This election should teach all of us that labels really don’t matter. So, we are all loons? BFD! Who cares.

The old childhood saying sticks and stones...

It never fazed me one bit.

600 posted on 12/05/2008 12:34:34 PM PST by Red Steel
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