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Posted on 12/02/2008 7:30:36 PM PST by ckilmer
http://www.oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-07-99-00570.pdf
"The issuance of birth certificates in the United States is the responsibility of 57 State vital records registrars and numerous other entities assigned vital records responsibility."
The "57 State" phrase sort of jumped out at me. I wonder if this is related to the "57 states" Obama claims to have visited. Perhaps he's carefully studied this very document, and let his lips speak his thoughts. Maybe he was really thinking of the vital records registrars and how to get his own "birth certificate problem" fixed.
Didn’t they actually have a guy from Nicaragua run for President and never even checked it out? Róger Calero.
Please expound upon your point.
Also please enlighten us as the exact standards one must meet to be considered a "natural born citizen" under all the laws, including the Constitution, of this country and considering the impact, if any, of the laws of Britain, Kenya and Indonesia on the status of "natural born citizen."
When you get it all figured out neatly, let the rest of us know.
Interesting considering the 57 state gaffe. Wonder if this issue was on his mind at the time the gaffe happened.
Oh my! Lucy, you need to see this one! The ‘57’ fox paw Obammy made on the campaign trail has been niggling at me and this may be the explanation for it!
I, for one, would like to hear SCOTUS speak on this issue....which should be on December 5th...ok with YOU?
I would think if he is found to be ineligible for the office of President of the US IMPEACHE the fraud..bring him to trial and then to jail and toss in that wife of his too..and send the kids to Kenya along with the granny nanny they plan to house in the WH.
“Why has Barack Obama been lying for decades about the ‘marriage’ of his parents when he knew full well he was lying? There was no marriage.
How can anyone vote for Obama for president when Obama is so cowardly he can’t tell the truth to the American people?”
http://www.pr-inside.com/barack-obama-panics-andy-martin-s-book-r700482.htm
Not sure I have that much faith in Barney Frank, Harry Reid, or Nancy Pelosi.
Absolutely no moral compass!
Based on what legal requirement or action? The court only addresses actions brought before it by capable parties.
Capable meaning those who present they are capable as parties able to bring action as those in the proper standing to the case.
Maybe this is the loop hole that no one who has the right standing as another party to the case has not asked the right question.
Meaning I think having three points.
1. Acknowledged their standing as a valid party to the particular law regarding their case.
2. Has the case been shown to be a valid case where they have been harmed by the illegality committed against them by the other parties illegal action.
3. What is the action/remedy that is proscribed by law to address the harm to the other party.
Yes, there are many things that are a stretch. But then again . . . remember this was 1961. Let’s say these are the facts: Obama’s mother was 18 and may or may not have been married to a Kenyan. She apparently had traveled to Kenya and returned around the time Barack was born. Is this all something of a scandal to Ann’s parents’ upper-middle class friends? Do the Dunhams want to support Ann and their grandchild by making sure it’s known that he’s not illegitimate (thus, the birth announcement in the paper)? Do they (the grandparents or Ann) want him to be a U.S. citizen-—and if that was thwarted, say, by Ann not being able to return to the U.S. before his birth-—do they feel that was just a technicality, something that doesn’t really matter since it was their intent that he be born in Hawaii?
I’m not suggesting any of this is the reality. I’m simply suggesting that, standing in their shoes in 1961, a lot of things would look different to them than they do in retrospect, especially now that baby Barack grew up to be President-select.
Surely there are people who, at that time, might have considered it a little white lie to say he was born in Hawaii rather than have to go through what might appear to them to be a red-tape hassle to establish his citizenship. Or maybe Ann and BHO I weren’t actually married, or not married at the time of birth, or some other fact that made the family just want to “make” the record what they wanted it to be. Think about it: if they wanted him to be an American and at that time planned to raise him as an American, they might have thought it wasn’t a big deal to fudge on the birthplace.
The bottom line, however, is that the burden should be on Obama to prove that he is eligible to be President.
If Hawaiian law leaves open the possibility that a person can get a Hawaii birth certificate even if foreign born, then he must have other proof that he is eligible.
Moreover, it’s not clear that the law on “natural born citizen” focused solely on birthplace. That status may also be affected by descent (the citizenship of the mother, father or both). Plus Obama may have been subsequently adopted and made a citizen of Indonesia. It’s not clear if or how that, if raised, affects the “natural born citizen” status.
“Cost to Obama to get a Certificate of Live Birth certified copy: $ 10.00
Cost to Obama to pay three law firms to prevent disclosure of this document to date: $800,000 plus
Cost of defending the Constitution of the United States: Priceless”
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I don’t agree that he is fearful of anything. Remember he is an arrogrant narcissist and as such he is above it all ( in his own mind) and won’t concern himself with this. He has sent minions to do his dirty deeds and like Pilot, has washed his hands of it all..not unlike the Clinton tactics..
Thanks, MHGinTn. Good catch and you probably are right. The ‘57’ comment was an odd one.
Ping to #241.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2141909/posts?page=241#241
Thank you, but this is your opinion only and not an established fact. Do you suppose that Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Newt Gingrich, Sean Hannity, R. Emmett Tyrrell, House & Senate Republicans, Republican state officials, etc etc etc etc were also concerned with being called racist?
Nary a conservative of repute has lent this any validity whatsoever, yet two hack attorneys, Berg and Donofrio are just so exceptionally astute and doggedly determined that they are to be believed?
Yes. Next question.
The American people as a whole are idiots. Top Down. All you have is your Parents who let you get in trouble on your own. If discipline was key then you stand a chance. These idiots now voting can’t do anything, provide anything, and suck the life from the Country. It’s pathetic.
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