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Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in Catholic schools, say church leaders (U.K.)
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | December 2, 2008 | Simon Caldwell

Posted on 12/02/2008 6:43:29 AM PST by Stoat

Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in every Roman Catholic school, Church leaders have said.

The Catholic bishops of England and Wales also want special toilet facilities in schools to be adapted for Islamic cleaning rituals.

Their demands will shock both Catholic parents and the Government because they go way beyond the legal requirements on catering for the rights and needs of religious minorities.

But the bishops are keen to answer critics who say religious schools sow division - and to show that they are leading the way in building bridges between people of different faiths.

The bishops acknowledge in a new document proposing the measures that 30 per cent of pupils attending Catholic schools hold a non-Christian faith.

"If practicable, a room (or rooms) might be made available for the use of pupils and staff from other faiths for prayer," the bishops said in the document, Catholic Schools, Children of Other Faiths and Community Cohesion

"Existing toilet facilities might be adapted to accommodate individual ritual cleansing which is sometimes part of religious lifestyle and worship,” they said.

"If such space is not available on a permanent or regular basis, extra efforts might be made to address such need for major religious festivals."

The Islamic cleansing ritual, called "Wudhu", is carried out by Muslims before they pray.

Islam teaches that Muslims are unfit for prayer if they have not performed Wudhu after breaking wind or using the toilet.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; catholic; catholicism; england; greatbritain; islam; mohammedanism; mohammedanism122008; muslim; prayer; stealthjihad; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: indylindy
Moslems, and other non-Catholics around the world find it convenient to send their kids to Catholic schools for a number of reasons.

One popular reason advanced by Catholics is the superiority of the education. Which might be. At the same time the Catholic schools don't ask you to show your papers (your visa to be in the country, etc.) Plus, Catholic schools don't force you to convert.

Ever since the Reformation Catholicism has become almost as mamby-pamby as Methodism.

Gaaakakakaka~~ (sceaming and running off into the distance).

41 posted on 12/02/2008 7:07:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Stoat

Are CATHOLIC prayer rooms available in muslim schools???? I dare say “NO!!”


42 posted on 12/02/2008 7:08:38 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
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To: Hacklehead
I think it was Arnold Toynbee who said it and Mark Steyn prefaced this in America Alone that civilizations don't die from foreign conquest. They die from internal suicide. Its a reminder the barbarians within are dissolving the bonds that has held the West together for thousands of years. The cultural acid is corrosive and you don't see it but the damage is being done. What we're seeing are the symptoms of it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

43 posted on 12/02/2008 7:09:10 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Hildy

Good question. Probably there are a few Muzzies in Catholic schools because the quality of the education is superior.


44 posted on 12/02/2008 7:10:07 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Stoat

What has happened to England is coming soon to a country near you. They are about 20 years ahead of us in the process.


45 posted on 12/02/2008 7:10:20 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Stoat

Why are muslim students going to a Catholic school anyway?


46 posted on 12/02/2008 7:10:22 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: Stoat

How nice,catholic suicide.


47 posted on 12/02/2008 7:10:53 AM PST by omega4179 (Pardon Ramos and Compean !! Hello Jorge??)
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To: Stoat
30 per cent of pupils attending Catholic schools hold a non-Christian faith.

What percentage of pupils attending Muslim schools hold a non-Muslim faith?

48 posted on 12/02/2008 7:13:27 AM PST by montag813 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: Stoat
They just don't get it, do they...

Top Muslim Calls for War Within the UK!!

Excerpt:

Psycho Islamist Anjem Choudary has called for the blood of the non-Muslim Brits to run in the street. He wants an apartheid in the UK and for Muslims there to force non-Muslims to wear signs like the Nazis did to the Jews in WW2.

Muslims don't want tolerance, they want total dominance.
49 posted on 12/02/2008 7:14:36 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: livius

It was a British Bishop that sent Joan of Arc into flames for wearing men’s clothing.


50 posted on 12/02/2008 7:15:56 AM PST by OldNavyVet (Character counts)
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To: goldstategop

“I think it was Arnold Toynbee who said it and Mark Steyn prefaced this in America Alone that civilizations don’t die from foreign conquest. They die from internal suicide. Its a reminder the barbarians within are dissolving the bonds that has held the West together for thousands of years.”

Ever wonder how all this was possible considering how oppressive and intolerant white men are supposed to be? We gave our society and culture without a shot being fired.


51 posted on 12/02/2008 7:16:39 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: muawiyah

That is tragic and depressing. I will feel better later today after watching Ms. Pelosi light the Capitol Holiday Tree. /s


52 posted on 12/02/2008 7:19:04 AM PST by dforest (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: Stoat
What's this about special toilets? What do they do, besides stand on the toilet? I cant imagine that they want a fancy toilet to wash their arse post pooping. Or don't they use TP?

I'd like to understand their toileting practices, I'm taking a nursing assistant course.

53 posted on 12/02/2008 7:19:16 AM PST by BarbM
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To: Stoat
Islam teaches that Muslims are unfit for prayer if they have not performed Wudhu after breaking wind or using the toilet.

Who can subscribe to such lunacy? God is offended by the normal function of the digestive system? It's a good idea to wash after using the bathroom on grounds of pure hygiene of course, but why make it a prerequisite for prayer? What does the Qu'uran say about praying while sitting on the john? Blaspmemy? Islam was invented to punish people who love not the truth.

Oh, and how many madrassas and mosques have rooms dedicated to Catholicism, my dear bishops? Wouldn't it be a good idea to take advantage of the fact that some Muslims attend Catholic schools to introduce them to the beauty of Christianity and the merciful love of Jesus, rather than bending over backwards to appease them and confirm them in their misguided beliefs? If they don't like it, they could always leave and go to another school.

This is true love for one's neighbor?

54 posted on 12/02/2008 7:20:37 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future"- Pope John Paul II)
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To: Stoat
Pre-prayer Wudu (ritual cleansing) was not a serious issue for most Muslims in western countries, and many Muslims in the middle east for years. Apparently, the reason this has not come up in the past is the first Wudu can last for the whole day, if one does not do something to defile oneself. As I understand it, in the U.S., the idea of performing a Wudu every time is driven by Somalis, which seems odd, as I doubt they have footbaths located throughout Somalia. Personally, I have never encountered a footbath in a secular location the middle east. I understand they have them outside of Mosques. I have seen Muslims in the middle east praying outdoors no where near a restroom or a footbath.
55 posted on 12/02/2008 7:21:38 AM PST by magellan (u)
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To: Stoat
A friend of mine who attended a Catholic school told be a story about an occurrence at daily Mass one day. He was kneeling in the pew behind a nun who broke wind fairly audibly. Of course my friend starting giggling uncontrollably and was roundly disciplined by the nun.

Two thoughts come to mind:
1) It gave new meaning to the word "pew".
2) If this were a madrassa, and he laughed at a farting imam, he probably would have been decapitated.

56 posted on 12/02/2008 7:21:38 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: BarbM
Hmm ~ left hand only. According to an African friend of mine once you become a Moslem it is apparantly the case that you wipe your left hand on the wall of the toilet.

He used to travel as an advance man with Sukarno so he'd been plenty of places.

Frankly, I've never asked these guys around here about it.

57 posted on 12/02/2008 7:27:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Stoat

And in a spirit of tolerance and mutual interfaith respect, the bishops will press for a Muslim to be made a bishop to serve the needs of Muslims in Catholic schools.


58 posted on 12/02/2008 7:28:06 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: magellan
I have seen Muslims in the middle east praying outdoors no where near a restroom or a footbath.

Mohammed said that, when water is not available, it is ok to cleanse oneself with sand. I'm not kidding!

59 posted on 12/02/2008 7:28:41 AM PST by Former Fetus
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To: ravingnutter

Videoes are the best way to undestand this sad reality...

Investigation INSIDE a british mosque :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuCLC8kjWCI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5t5EqWX92k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMztM0Z7BYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zv3BUmwqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvjvNScmTQA

OTHER VIDEO

Muslims openly calling for murders of British and American people in the streets of... London...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs&eurl=


60 posted on 12/02/2008 7:33:18 AM PST by sweetiepiezer (I have a Pal in Sarah)
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