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Desperate times call for zero rates from Fed
Times of London ^ | 12/02/08 | Gerard Baker

Posted on 12/01/2008 9:40:49 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Desperate times call for zero rates from Fed

Gerard Baker: American view

It did not take long for a brief moment of hope on the US economic front to turn to ashes yesterday.

The weekend marked the beginning of the Christmas shopping season, with last Friday, the day after Thanksgiving, the busiest shopping day of the year.

Even a recession, it seems, cannot diminish the frenzy of the American consumer and Black Friday, as it is known, demonstrated, with frightening new ferocity, that the most dangerous place on earth is between an American and a bargain. A Wal-Mart employee at a New York store was trampled to death in the stampede, left unattended for crucial moments as shoppers got on with their business.

Leaving aside the death toll of one, early data from the weekend were mildly encouraging. Surprisingly, total sales seemed to be somewhat higher than they were a year ago, before recession hit. Spending at the big stores was up 3 per cent on a year earlier, according to ShopperTrak RCT, a research company that monitors such things, and a quick survey by the National Retail Federation found that American consumers spent an average of $372 per person on Friday, up 7per cent on a year ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at business.timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fed; financialcrisis; zerointerest
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Would the slogan of Obama regime become "Zero rate, zero jobs, Zero President" ?

It kind of rhymes with "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer.":-)

1 posted on 12/01/2008 9:40:49 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 12/01/2008 9:41:11 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

a decade of low growth like the japanese economy of the 1990s,

then followed by the boomer generation retiremnet en masse,

whew!

will the u.s. be able to re-pay the $ they are borrowing in 2020?


3 posted on 12/01/2008 9:42:55 PM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This is what happens when you make a guy chairman of the Federal Reserve who has specialized in the Great Depression and other huge downturns. His world view is Great Depression. Its a self fulfilling prophecy!

Next time appoint someone who is an expert on economic booms!!!

4 posted on 12/01/2008 9:43:54 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

ZIRP.


5 posted on 12/01/2008 9:44:11 PM PST by Pelham (Obama: Reconstruction version 2.0)
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Leaving aside the death toll of one, early data from the weekend were mildly encouraging.

The Black Friday version of, "Apart from that Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?"

6 posted on 12/01/2008 9:44:36 PM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: ken21

Remember that song from the eighties called -— “I’m turning Japanese”

That’s the Feds new policy


7 posted on 12/01/2008 9:45:13 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Larry Kudlow was on my TV tonight explaining why this isn’t a depression.

We’re doomed.


8 posted on 12/01/2008 9:45:52 PM PST by kms61
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To: kms61

lol - indeed.


9 posted on 12/01/2008 9:47:56 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

LOL


10 posted on 12/01/2008 9:52:43 PM PST by wastedyears ("Al Gore is an apostle of arrogance." - Vaclav Klaus, Pres. of Czech Republic)
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Remember that song from the eighties called -— “I’m turning Japanese”

"Don't worry, be happy"

11 posted on 12/01/2008 9:55:19 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: kms61

We are so screwed. He has been wrong at ever turn. And the more he blathers on the more wrong he is.


12 posted on 12/01/2008 9:58:42 PM PST by brydic1
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To: ken21

I just bought a house and learned we lost 6,000 orders due to rohs compliant problems. Just Damn!


13 posted on 12/01/2008 10:05:08 PM PST by eyedigress (All I want for Christmas is a nice blue barrel rifle.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The way they are printing money 18% interest rates need to return immediatly!!!


14 posted on 12/01/2008 10:05:15 PM PST by dalereed
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To: kms61

“Larry Kudlow was on my TV tonight explaining why this isn’t a depression.”

It’s not yet but we sure need one!!


15 posted on 12/01/2008 10:07:26 PM PST by dalereed
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We are so screwed. He has been wrong at ever turn. And the more he blathers on the more wrong he is.

Larry Kudlow has boundless faith in free markets taking care of all problems
We have had a free unregulated market in derivatives/credit default swaps by "too big to fail" firms and this accounts for most of the 8 trillion dollar bailout

16 posted on 12/01/2008 10:21:22 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This already occurred 20 years ago...in Japan!


17 posted on 12/01/2008 10:23:18 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: dennisw

yeah, let’s have a bunch of economically illiterate politicians in charge of regulating everything. /sarc


18 posted on 12/01/2008 10:26:53 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: dennisw
Believe me, I have been listening to Larry Kudlow for years long before he appeared on CNBC. He has been all over the place on this matter. One day he is cheering on the bailouts then the next day he doesn't believe in them. Today, he had the audacity to state that he knew we were going into a recession in Feb of this year. If so, he lied again and again because he was still denying the recession on CNBC as late as August. I used to have some respect for him but he has become an object of derision with his over-talking almost everyone that appears on the screen with him. CNBC should give him his walking papers.
19 posted on 12/01/2008 10:31:18 PM PST by brydic1
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Even a recession, it seems, cannot diminish the frenzy of the American consumer and Black Friday, as it is known, demonstrated, with frightening new ferocity, that the most dangerous place on earth is between an American and a bargain.”

Of course, in at least 9 out of 10 U.S. towns and neighborhoods, that statement is absolutely not true. So, I didn’t bother reading the rest of the article...


20 posted on 12/01/2008 10:46:48 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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