Posted on 12/01/2008 2:43:49 PM PST by fanfan
The ‘West’- northwestern Ontario, Manitoba, Sask, Alberta, and BC are solid conservative majorities in federal elections - period ....your spin will not change that.
You worked out west....LOL ....that makes you an eastern not a Western Canadian......lol.......
The economy of Ontario and Quebec is about to go into the tank and the socialists including red tories want to bail it out with The West’s tax money. 27% of the population (Western Canada) supplies 80% of Canada’s resources while the power structure of the east has kept 80% of the manufacturing in Ontario and Quebec. Well that is about to end and the stranglehold of federal power; Ontario and Quebec enjoy with it. With the exceptions of northern Manitoba (native reserves) and Vancouver (la la land) the West in conservative. We have had enough of the east’s socialism and red toryism polluting conservatism federally.
Poppycock again....this is about the left (eastern Canada) wanting to rape the West again, money and power not ideology. The CPC government as a minority could not move the country any further right than the opposition in Parliament would have let them.
Note the CPC has more MP's than the Liberals and NDP combined.
LOl ...that merging of the Reform (conservatives -Western Canada) and the PC's (progressive conservatives LOL = Liberals) was 66 seats Reform and 12 seats PC's.
I believe her term is up in January and he can appoint someone else. One that respects Canadian voters would be nice!
I read that, legally, this troika could not be forced to call a new election for five years. Doubt they can hold together five months, but regardless, it looks very bad for Canada.
It does. Should this crazed gambit materialize, quite apart from the stupid left-wing schemes which will be implemented by this Coalition of the Swilling, I fear that a fresh and belligerent strain of Western Separatism will blossom, and perhaps irrevocably divide our Dominion.
Personally, I would prefer a return to our pre-Trudeau Constitutional arrangements. Canada was, in many ways, the freest of all the Anglo nations in the 1960s. WE had avoided the socialism of Britain and Australia and the State fetishism of New Deal America.
Alas, we threw it all away in the 1970s, never to be restored, evidently.
But they'll NEVER agree to that, particularly because incorporating the Bloc Quebecious secessionist agenda into the Liberal Party and New Democrat Party platforms would be fatal to them and cause them to lose all kinds of power outside of Quebec. Voters will have qualms about re-electing any Liberal or NPD members of Parliment pledged to bring Quebec secession to a floor vote.
And since the current 69 Bloc Quebecious members won their election over the other parties by specifically running AGAINST a national canadian government, then putting them in charge of the ruiling national government is a slap in the face to the voters and the exact opposite of the intent of those voters. Fortunately for us, I think they did a poll in Quebec and the vast majority of Quebec votes want the Bloc to have power over the new government, including cabinent positions and veto power over Canada's hertiage (basically, they want to turn Canada into a French nation), so the BQ is shut out of decisions in the "coalition", they'll either hold the government hostage until it caves to French Canadian Superiority in Canada, or the BQ will suffer massive defeat at the polls for "betraying" their principles.
Either way, if they do manage to unite to overthrow Harper, this new mutant "government" will probably fall apart within a week.
Bottom line is the French leftists do not want to accept that the election resulted in 143 seats for a Right-Wing NATIONAL government, and 114 seats for a Left-Wing NATIONAL government.
An American election that didn't involve ACORN would be a good start.
Now, now. While I don't profess Einstein-level knowledge of Canadian politics, I dare say I probably know more than the average American does about politics south of the border, and probably more than the average Canadian does about their own gov't. Que sera sera. Now, all I merely pointed out to you was the inherent hypocrisy of a party with that absurd title. Rather like the "Jewish Nazi party" or the "Caucasian Black Panther Party." How long it lasted doesn't change the fact it was a contradiction in terms. You seem to lament the farce didn't last longer.
"Brian Mulroney aka Lyin’ Bryan aka The Chin©"
Mulroney, a die-hard Conservative idealogue ? Now, now, are you talking party or ideology ? Mulroney seemed, at best, by our standards to be a RINO. Certainly no "die-hard" right-winger. Besides, last I checked, it was Kim Campbell that saw the party wiped out to the point they could caucus in a phone booth.
"Yeah, the control freak. The man so focussed on dissing his political rivals that the economy can burn and the peasants eat cake. Yeah, that’s the guy. The one that 60+ percent of the electorate DIDN’T vote for."
Good heavens. You're starting to sound as rabid as Layton. Why are you even on a Conservative website ? You don't seem to share our common values here. Attacking Harper, from the left seems to cement your reputation.
"Ah! I see! I’m glad your life on a desert island is going so glowingly. As I said, that’s exceptional in the experience of most, conservative or liberal."
So, FR is a "Desert Island" in your estimation ?
"You have an interestingly narrow outlook. I was referring to the day-to-day reality the vast majority face where absolutes as you see them aren’t possible. Like when it’s a toss-up between paying the mortgage or eating after you’ve been laid off. But then again, that would be the fault of the person deciding in your book because he shouldn’t have been stupid enough to be in the position of being laid off, right?"
Don't look at me, I'm just one of those unenlightened Conservatives. One of those dummies that thinks having a million dollar home/mortgage when you're working at Starbuck's is ill-advised.
"My apologies if I’ve mischaracterised your position. In this day and age, finding someone who seems quite so thoughtless and heartless is unusual and my reaction was visceral."
Well, can't all have such big liberal hearts like yours. :-)
Thank you. Most kind.
Personally, I’d like to see the end of the BQ as a representative party in the Commons. They cannot swear fealty to her Majesty. The BQ exists only as Canadians continue to indulge the separatist agenda in Canada. Whatever co-existence was machinated by Harper in the past with them has now bit him in the ass. They use the political process not to benefit the country but to break-up the nation.
Ah, it's no wonder our friend, Volunteer, is so miffed. He's part of the angry fractional rump. "New" (sic) respect, as they say up in Ontario. ;-)
Hey, Billy, just as an aside, have you ever visited Quebec ?
Oh, you should go visit. I’ve been in 3 provinces, New Brunswick, Ontario and Quebec. Ontario (at least Lower ONT, I’ve never been up west of the more populous areas) is a lot like a combo of Michigan, Ohio & Western NY. Flat, flat, flat. New Brunswick is interesting, somewhat similar to Maine (well, since it borders it). Quebec, however, is something else entirely. It’s literally like France transported to the American continent. I spent several days in Quebec City in the premier hotel property in the province, the Chateau Frontenac. Like staying in a European castle.
Folks are friendly, though French is their main language (and unlike outside of PQ where much is labelled in two languages, virtually everything in PQ is in French — especially road signage, and you’d better be versed in the language tout de suite, as I had about 30 seconds to get acclimated as soon as we crossed over, especially since I was doing the navigating). You realize, however, that in maintaining “Distinct Society” the inherent problems in how truly SEPARATE PQ feels from its surrounding neighbors.
As I said, it’s an interesting place, but the costs of making it what it is today has been an overall negative for Canada. I just imagine had the U.S. had similar “Distinct Societies” for our states (say, French for Louisiana & Maine; Dutch for NYC; Swedish for Delaware; German for PA; Spanish for NM, CA & FL; Russian for Alaska) we would’ve come unglued in short order. I wonder had the Canadian federal government early on insisted upon total assimilation for PQ, how much better off and united the entire Dominion would’ve been in the long run. Despite what the left maintains, diversity is NOT our strength when it comes to plural cultures and languages under one flag, it is our undoing.
Moonbat Left trying to steal the Government from the Conservatives in Canada
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It’s perfectly normal for coalitions to form in a parliamentary system. This happens regularly in Israel and Great Britain.
Not in Canada under these particular circumstances, and not weeks after the people spoke as to which party they preferred to run the government. The Libs were firmly rebuked, and the public overwhelmingly opposes this hijacking.
The new coalition would have no standing until 2010.
“Trudeau was a Nazi-cum-Stalinist”
Uh huh. Since you’ve previously proudly professed to know precious little about the Progressive Conservative party, how is it that your pronouncements about Trudeau should be received as anything more?
“the Gov-Gen equivalent can halt (at Her Majesty’s discretion)”
Hate to break it to you but Her Majesty has nothing to do with the equation. Seems to be something that Yanks just can’t seem to grasp for whatever reason.
“The sole reason that participated the unbridled panic from the left was Harper’s plan to defund the moonbats.”
Perhaps if you understood the circumstance that had the public coffer supporting the political parties. You see, the whole concept was to remove the influence of Corporate and Union monies as influence in the direction of political parties. This came to pass under the Liberal leadership 5 years ago. Now the grass-root funded Conservatives want to strangle their opposition who played by the rules. Ooh, the nasty Opposition that thinks playing by the rules is a good thing.
Oh, and by the way? The Conservatives want to sit on their hands and let the economy go in the dumper. That’s really a proactive response to the economic times we’re in.
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