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To: Non-Sequitur
If a person is born on US soil they are a US citizen but he/she is not a “natural born” citizen unless both of his/her parents were US citizens.

Rudy's parents were US citizens and Rudy was born on US soil, therefore he is a “natural born” citizen and could hold the office of President.

Rudys grandparents could be from anywhere, it would not matter as long as Rudy's parents were born on US soil, they are US citizens. Rudys parents are US citizens by being born in this country but they are not “natural born”.
However, when they as citizens gave birth to Rudy, that means Rudy is a “natural born” citizen, meaning he was born of two US citizens and was born on US soil.

254 posted on 12/01/2008 11:30:02 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth; Non-Sequitur

“If a person is born on US soil they are a US citizen but he/she is not a “natural born” citizen unless both of his/her parents were US citizens.

Rudy’s parents were US citizens and Rudy was born on US soil, therefore he is a “natural born” citizen and could hold the office of President.

Rudys grandparents could be from anywhere, it would not matter as long as Rudy’s parents were born on US soil, they are US citizens. Rudys parents are US citizens by being born in this country but they are not “natural born”.

However, when they as citizens gave birth to Rudy, that means Rudy is a “natural born” citizen, meaning he was born of two US citizens and was born on US soil.”

EXACTAMUNDO !!!

We WOULD NOT be posting these threads if Obama was a generation removed ...

That is, if Obama was born on U.S. soil, the son of two U.S. citizens (born on U.S. soil), and he was the GRANDSON of naturalized citizens ...


256 posted on 12/01/2008 11:34:46 AM PST by Lmo56
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To: seekthetruth
Rudys grandparents could be from anywhere, it would not matter as long as Rudy's parents were born on US soil, they are US citizens. Rudys parents are US citizens by being born in this country but they are not “natural born”.

The law disagrees with you. As does the Supreme Court.

258 posted on 12/01/2008 11:37:55 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: seekthetruth
However, when they as citizens gave birth to Rudy, that means Rudy is a “natural born” citizen, meaning he was born of two US citizens and was born on US soil.

Under Italian law, if any of Rudy's grandparents had children in America before they renounced their Italian citizenship and became American citizens, Italian citizenship passed to their children and to Rudy, unless any of them walked into an Italian consulate and renounced it.

I'm in the same boat, but another generation removed. Both of my parents were born here. All four of my grandparents were born here, but one grandfather was born before his father renounced his Italian citizenship. Under Italian law, I am a Italian citizen. If I hassle with a bunch of paperwork to prove that line of descent, I can get an Italian passport. Am I a "natural born citizen" of the US?

271 posted on 12/01/2008 12:01:35 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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