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To: seekthetruth
I believe the Justices will fully hear Leo Donofrio’s case and in voting on Friday to hear the case they will order an immediate stay. That will put a hold on the Electoral College vote until a ruling is made. I may be wrong, but that is the way I see it.

And I disagree. But we'll find out sooner or later, perhaps as early as next week.

You earlier stated the 14th Amendment would apply to Obama which would make him a natural born citizen. The way I see it, it would make him a citizen, but not “natural born”. The definition of “natural born” is still under question but I still believe it is someone born of parents who are both US citizens and born on US soil. Not just one or the other, but both in order to hold the Office of President.

The definition should not be under question since federal law and Supreme Court cases have both established it. One of the reasons why I don't believe the Court will find Donofrio's arguements persuasive. For them to agree with Donofrio, or you, would mean Obama and McCain are both ineligible, and could make it hard for any candidate to establish credentials. Giuliani, for example, would have to prove that his grandparents on both sides were naturalized citizens before his mother and father were both born, otherwise they are not U.S. citizens. And if they are not U.S. citizens then Giuliani is not a U.S. citizen. The arguements would be endless.

174 posted on 12/01/2008 9:12:30 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

“One of the reasons why I don’t believe the Court will find Donofrio’s arguements persuasive. For them to agree with Donofrio, or you, would mean Obama and McCain are both ineligible, and could make it hard for any candidate to establish credentials. Giuliani, for example, would have to prove that his grandparents on both sides were naturalized citizens before his mother and father were both born, otherwise they are not U.S. citizens. And if they are not U.S. citizens then Giuliani is not a U.S. citizen. The arguements would be endless.

If Rudy’s parents were born in the US, Rudy is a natural born citizen and would qualify for the Office of President.
So even if Rudy’s grandparents were nationalized citizens, and were born outside the US, Rudy’s parents born on US soil would be citizens of the US. Their children would then be natural born citizens, as Rudy is.


181 posted on 12/01/2008 9:26:25 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Non-Sequitur

The issue with Natural born is allegiance not geographical location of birth. Donifrio’s case just muddies the water and aids Obama.


371 posted on 12/01/2008 6:44:51 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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