Posted on 12/01/2008 6:04:32 AM PST by pissant
Controversy continues to surround President-elect Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president, and a case involving his birth certificate waits for its day before the U.S. Supreme Court. A constitutional lawyer said were it to be discovered that Mr. Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, it would have grave consequences for the nation.
According to the Constitution, a president must be a natural born citizen of the U.S. Mr. Obama's critics have failed to force him legally to produce his original birth certificate, and Mr. Obama has resisted any attempt to make him do so. Currently, only Hawaii Department of Health officials have access to Mr. Obama's original records.
Some of Mr. Obama's critics have said he was born in Kenya and have claimed he is a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia, or even a British subject.
Edwin Vieira, a constitutional lawyer who has practiced for 30 years and holds four degrees from Harvard, said if it were to be discovered Mr. Obama were not eligible for the presidency, it would cause many problems. They would be compounded if his ineligibility were discovered after he had been in office for a period of time.
"Let's assume he wasn't born in the U.S.," Mr. Vieira told The Bulletin. "What's the consequence? He will not be eligible. That means he cannot be elected validly. The people and the Electoral College cannot overcome this and the House of Representatives can't make him president. So what's the next step? He takes the oath of office, and assuming he's aware he's not a citizen, then it's a perjured oath."
Any appointments made by an ineligible president would have to be recalled, and their decisions would be invalidated.
(Excerpt) Read more at thebulletin.us ...
Bush v. Gore was a slam-dunk 14th Amendment case ... 7-2
If you think otherwise, talk to Breyer and Souter - libs who voted with the majority.
Why wasn’t it 5-4? Ginsberg and Stevens were chicken sh*ts who COULD NOT bring themselves to vote for the GOP ...
Some of us are trying to determine exactly how the Constitution would handle such an issue. And it is clear that Obama’s disqualification would not affect Biden. It matters not how he was nominated only that he was legitimately on the state ballots.
There is no chance of Obama-Palin.
The other could be called the Infuriation Administration.
The 270 is not relevant if the "winner" is disqualified. Its the person with the next highest number of votes. Article XII (12) of the US Constitution. Its on-line for everyone to read.
Thank you - in my fevered imagination I thought something was supposed to happen in the SCOTUS today.
Director of Health for the State of Hawaii , Chiyome Fukino: "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama's official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai'i."
If this is thrown into the HOuse it can only vote for those receiving EVs for president. This means McCain.
CORRECT !!!
Um, that should read “BTW, ‘arrogant sob’ ...” too many threads to follow, too little time and too few hands to type with.
That 7-2 is why I do not rule out the USSC doing the right thing if it must.
That 7-2 is why I do not rule out the USSC doing the right thing if it must.
Me too ...
This high falutin Harvard lawyer is saying basically the same thing we freepers have been saying for months. But we’ve been called lunatics. This is the big signal to the MSM that this is not a fringe issue.
OK the point is that it will be more difficult to create a fraudulent document now that everyone is aware of what is going on. Too many eyes.
I forgot the latest twist on the Lingle story. Probable the intention of the propaganda campaign posting the fraudulent story that Lingle had stepped in. Like the non-existent Virginia case declaring Zero eligible.
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So clear on its face. The drafters of this amendment and the many states that ratified it were anticipating the day when a president shall fail to qualify.
How can America just look the other way? If the constitution is no longer valid, the Federal income tax provision is no longer valid, the Thirteenth Amendment banning slavery is no longer valid, etc... where does this stop? What ever happened to a Nation ruled by law and not by men?
SCOTUS.... wake up!!!
The Civil Right struggle was about Power....purely and simply Black Power
Or Hillary. Unless the SCOTUS rules that the runner up McCain is qualified to serve (we are still in deep doo doo; but, its OUR doo doo!).
Where does it stop? ... I drink to that.
It just amazes me how many posters on this thread have not actually READ the constitution. Its free! Read it. Then post!
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I'd like to thank our friends and countrymen, the Democrats, for destroying our constitutional form of government. Its now rule by men, not by law.
We are witnessing a bloodless coup. Our nation destroyed before our very eyes while crybaby Bush apologizes for everything under the sun. Why doesn't he step in to protect the Republic?
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