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Obama Fomenting A Constitutional Crisis: Constitutional Lawyer Discusses Ramifications
The Bulletin ^ | 12/1/08 | John Connolly

Posted on 12/01/2008 6:04:32 AM PST by pissant

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To: pissant

from the article:
“ ...this case will probably not go away, even after Mr. Obama takes the oath of office.”

I’ve been watching the “birth certificate controversy” since the beginning. In fact, I was one of the first to raise objections based on the phony Certificate of Live Birth that was put up months ago.

At this point in time, I don’t foresee the courts stepping in to halt the Electoral College proceedings or the pending inauguration, regardless of how logical or persuasive some of the arguments for doing so may seem.

Obama will be sworn in as president. He will be president.

HOWEVER.... I don’t think the issue of the birth certificate is going away, either. If that original UNmodified document still exists, sooner or later the truth as to exactly what’s upon it is going to come out. Of course, this assumes that in the interval, Obama will not use the power of his office to replace the true original birth certificate with a hoked-up one. Or that the existing sealed document already hasn’t been replaced in that manner.

Perhaps someone (or even a few people) outside the Obama circle already knows what’s on it. They won’t keep quiet forever.

I sense that somewhere, somebody knows the truth.

And truth has a way of finding the light of day.

- John


121 posted on 12/01/2008 7:28:41 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: pissant

The democrats have already prepared for his removal if it comes to that. They might be playing out the clock until he is sworn in. Hillary is going to be Sec. of State. I have a feeling that everyone else in the line of succession would turn it (the Presidency) down leaving Hillary as President.


122 posted on 12/01/2008 7:28:41 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: jersey117
They must do the right thing. How could they in good conscience swear him in without proof that he is eligible?

Their proof mat rely on sworn affidavits or something like that from each state certifying the results of the election.

123 posted on 12/01/2008 7:29:26 AM PST by Zack Attack
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To: pissant

Obama is living for the first minutes of his presidency, when he can fire the federal prosecutors that are preparing cases that would incarcerate him for much of what remains of his life. Its his only hope, and he cannot be expected to ‘come clean,’ any more than did Bill Clinton.


124 posted on 12/01/2008 7:30:00 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: Croatoan Mongoose

We’ll never know for sure. I believe votes in conference are secret.


125 posted on 12/01/2008 7:33:23 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: pissant
see post 72

Yes, I've read the 20th Amendment many times.

126 posted on 12/01/2008 7:34:58 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: cpdiii
Yes, you got that, spot on. If ineligible before 15 December, the Electors are freed.

If after he's sworn in, then the Vice President moves up, same as if the President dies.

If the Supreme Court declared him ineligible, after 15 December, but before he's sworn in, there is no historical precedent to go by. Possibly, there too the Electors would be freed, and they would vote again.

John / Billybob

127 posted on 12/01/2008 7:38:09 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Larest book: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: pissant

I have recently retired from a “second career” and have had time to read ALL, AND I MEAN ALL of the blogs involving this potential Constituional Crisis including Dr. Polarik’s outstanding investigative CONCLUSION of the forged Obama “Certification of Live Birth.”

I have forwarded many of the articles/links to fellow church members and my conservative friends at my former job to help get them informed of the situation.

I am deeply troubled about this potential Constitutional Crisis and the possible usurpation of the highest office in the land by this “poseur,” as one author called Obama.

Honestly, I go to sleep at night thinking about this situation only to rise in the morning doing the same.

We need to keep up the pressure on Congress and SCOTUS to have this situation resolved.

Pray and Keep Up The Pressure.... thanks for letting me unload.

God Save The Republic!

Joe Marine


128 posted on 12/01/2008 7:38:38 AM PST by Joe Marine 76 (God Save the Republic and God Bless the United States Marines!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
McCain lost. Nothing can change that, so people will just have to get over it. It's a Democratic House and Senate, and the Democrats won the election. Be it Obama or someone else, the next president will be a Democrat.

Maybe it will be a democrat but the people deserve a fair election. If McCain lost to someone perpetrating great fraud, then we have unexplored waters IMO.

But if there does happen to be a new election then I hope the Republican Party gets to name a new ticket also. LOL.

129 posted on 12/01/2008 7:39:26 AM PST by Zack Attack
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To: Non-Sequitur
If Obama is found to be ineligible then Biden will almost surely take his place.

Except the whole ticket is fraudulent so he gets disqualified because of his running mate.

Obama isn't even President elect - yet. Not until after the Electoral College votes.

130 posted on 12/01/2008 7:39:36 AM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: pissant

I read something interesting this morning- it seems some want to change the Constitutional requirement for “natural born”...it’s stupid and just not fair you know!! This is from I think 2006- but interesting.

http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf


131 posted on 12/01/2008 7:40:31 AM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Then read it more carefully.


132 posted on 12/01/2008 7:45:48 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Elderberry

Just because one party’s candidate is invalidated doesn’t invalidate the whole election. The president would be chosen from the remaining candidates.
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The only thing I would add is that Obama wasn’t officially on any ballot ,, just “electors for Obama” ,,, this would invalidate the elected electors and leave just the ones elected for other candidates to vote in January... The next president needs a majority of THOSE votes only ..


133 posted on 12/01/2008 7:46:05 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: pissant

Assuming he’s not eligible, the primary question will be the effect on the outcomes of the elections in the several states.


134 posted on 12/01/2008 7:47:31 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("A laurel, and hearty handshake ....")
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To: G.Mason

Yes: I think the Marine barracks in DC would assist Mr. Obama’s departure from the White House.


135 posted on 12/01/2008 7:47:50 AM PST by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: pissant

I know this is a most likely a silly question, but couldn’t he just make a birth certificate. The hospital would not be forced to open their records to verify.


136 posted on 12/01/2008 7:48:51 AM PST by mel
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To: Diogenesis

That’s actually a flattering picture of Barack (or Barry, or, whatever the legal name turns out to be) ... he is obviously having his funny bone tickled, showing he is in fact a member of the human species, probably.


137 posted on 12/01/2008 7:49:21 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: pissant

Then a few hundred armed patriots should walk into the Hawaii dept of Health and TAKE Husseins records for publication. Problem solved. Where the hell is the spirit which formed this nation?? Allowing this thug to laugh at the constitution is ludicrous. And only the American people are to blame for permitting ourselves to be subjugated by such criminals.


138 posted on 12/01/2008 7:49:52 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I have searched for this for month’s... I got the first tip off on FR 6 months ago...unfortunately nothing exists except.....

“That’s ok I am not running for minister of Chicago”

This was said between a debate of obama and keyes in 2004


139 posted on 12/01/2008 7:52:55 AM PST by OL Hickory (hear that sound..its a hammer hitting the nail on its head!!)
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To: DouglasKC

Sorry, but the next person in line would be Nancy P. not Hill.


140 posted on 12/01/2008 7:53:55 AM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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