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Last chance for Constitution?
WND ^ | December 01, 2008 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 11/30/2008 10:03:16 PM PST by ckilmer

Most Americans don't realize it yet, but this Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court will review whether Barack Obama is indeed constitutionally eligible to become the next president.

The justices will hold a conference on the question and consider the case for formal review.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; docket; farah; obama; scotus
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1 posted on 11/30/2008 10:03:16 PM PST by ckilmer
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Barack Obama could have put this issue to rest long ago by producing a complete birth certificate from Hawaii. Instead, he has chosen to stonewall the matter, citing a website post of what can only be characterized as a partial representation of a birth certificate – one that has been criticized as a forgery.

Whether the birth certificate posted on various websites is genuine or not is almost beside the point as to his eligibility. Since Hawaii was known to register foreign births in the 1960s, the portion of the certificate released by the Obama campaign proves nothing, since it does not reveal such details as the hospital in which he was allegedly born.

Meanwhile, some of Obama’s own Kenyan relatives claim to have been present at his birth in Mombasa.

This controversy, which some have dismissed as frivolous, is as serious as the literal meaning of the Constitution itself.


2 posted on 11/30/2008 10:04:29 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer

75% of ALL the money spent by the Federal Government, RIGHT NOW, is UnConstitutional. It is already dead, we just haven’t figured it out yet.


3 posted on 11/30/2008 10:07:52 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: ckilmer

yeah, who was the doctor?


4 posted on 11/30/2008 10:19:31 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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To: ckilmer

The scary thing is that if this is how he behaves when he doesn’t yet have power, just what kind of nonsense is he going to pull when he has the full force of the executive branch?


5 posted on 11/30/2008 10:21:23 PM PST by glorgau
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To: ckilmer

Sun Yat-sen, the father of modern China, was able to obtain a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth when he moved there as a boy.

http://sunyatsenhawaii.org/english/visits/fifth/fifth06.html

Click on the certificate for a larger image.


6 posted on 11/30/2008 10:32:52 PM PST by Deo volente (On January 20, 2009 America moves to DEFCON 2.)
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To: Deo volente

correction: I believe the certificate was issued in 1904.


7 posted on 11/30/2008 10:38:16 PM PST by Deo volente (On January 20, 2009 America moves to DEFCON 2.)
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To: ckilmer

God save our country..


8 posted on 11/30/2008 10:40:08 PM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: Republic of Texas; All
75% of ALL the money spent by the Federal Government, RIGHT NOW, is UnConstitutional. It is already dead, we just haven’t figured it out yet.

Wow! It's good that somebody has put a percentage on constitutionally unauthorized federal spending. This suggests that federal taxes can be reduced by 75+%.

And here are the statutes that are being wrongly ignored, in my opinion, by DC "leaders" who hypocritically swear to defend these statutes as evidenced by illegal earmark spending.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution (emphasis added) in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution (emphasis added), nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Also, I personally don't regard the Constitution as dead. After all, even constitutionally clueless Obama has sworn to defend it. But more importantly, if the states wise up to the fact that the feds have wrongly been usurping 10th A. protected state powers since the time of constitutional flunky FDR, the states can demand their powers back.

Did you hear that Texas?

In fact, given Sarah Palin's proven track record in standing up to the big guys, it's no wonder that God kept Sarah in Alaska. After all, Sarah and the other governors actually have the lion's share difference of government power to serve the people when the limited powers of the Oval Office and Congress are subtracted from total government powers. So it would have been a mistake to send Sarah to DC, in my opinion.

9 posted on 11/30/2008 11:13:36 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Deo volente

Of course Hawaii wasn’t a state at that point...


10 posted on 11/30/2008 11:14:22 PM PST by xjcsa (And these three remain: change, hope and government. But the greatest of these is government.)
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To: ckilmer

Historians may very well indicate that December 5, 2008 was the day the constitution died. The death of the republic would soon follow and we’d be in the middle of an autocratic dictatorship, aka emperor.


11 posted on 12/01/2008 12:08:39 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Amendment10

I couldn’t agree more.


12 posted on 12/01/2008 12:11:58 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: ckilmer

I just keep thinking about the fact that no hospital in Hawaii will come forth and say he was born there.

My God, if he was actually BORN there they would be clamoring to make a SHRINE out of it!


13 posted on 12/01/2008 12:19:00 AM PST by dianed
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To: ckilmer

This controversy, which some have dismissed as frivolous, is as serious as the literal meaning of the Constitution itself.

Some. I have asked around to see how folks think about this and they just don’t care. It is frightening. Some say, well he was voted President and that is what matters. It is just scary. Hopefully whatever the outcome is that the constitution will be intact when done. Hopefully Obama will have a real birth certificate. If he does not end up born in America, I just don’t know how people will react. It could get ugly.


14 posted on 12/01/2008 12:21:29 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: ckilmer
Barack Obama could have put this issue to rest long ago by producing a complete birth certificate from Hawaii. Instead, he has chosen to stonewall the matter, citing a website post of what can only be characterized as a partial representation of a birth certificate – one that has been criticized as a forgery.

NO, no, no....That would NOT have solved his problems!!!

15 posted on 12/01/2008 12:52:11 AM PST by danamco
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To: ckilmer
Barack Obama could have put this issue to rest long ago by producing a complete birth certificate from Hawaii. Instead, he has chosen to stonewall the matter, citing a website post of what can only be characterized as a partial representation of a birth certificate – one that has been criticized as a forgery.

NO, no, no....That would NOT have solved his problems!!!

16 posted on 12/01/2008 12:52:11 AM PST by danamco
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To: ckilmer
If he were born in the Territory or what ever of Hawaii, I'd have zero problem. If he was actually born in Kenya, I have a really big problem with his qualifications to be POTUS under the terms of our Grand Constitution.


17 posted on 12/01/2008 1:05:10 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytim Pute, and the sooner the better!)
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To: dianed
I just keep thinking about the fact that no hospital in Hawaii will come forth and say he was born there. My God, if he was actually BORN there they would be clamoring to make a SHRINE out of it!

That is such a good point. Thank you.

18 posted on 12/01/2008 1:10:05 AM PST by sazerac
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To: sneakers

bttt


19 posted on 12/01/2008 1:34:43 AM PST by sneakers
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To: ckilmer
The Supreme Court (in fact no court) is going to hear the evidence in this case or any similar case. The Supreme Court will rule: "Petition for a writ of certiori is denied". There are not four justices interested in this case. The ruling of the trial court will stand. The plaintiff lacks standing.

From the WND article: "Ayabe ruled that Andy Martin, the man who filed the suit, did not have standing under state law because he did "not have a direct and tangible interest in the vital statistic records being sought, namely the birth certificate of President Obama."

Courts do not take public opinion into account. Petitions are addressed to the executive and legislative branches. Those are the political branches. The judicial branch should never be swayed by public opinion. Judges follow the rules of evidence, procedures of the court and the law. The rule on standing protects you and me from being harrassed by busybodies with no direct or tangible interest in your private business. Birth records are not public records.

This controversy will never die. Even if Barack Obama produced a birth certificate, there would be challenges to its authenticity and chain of custody. I doubt that any of the past forty-three presidents produced evidence of their citizenship before or after taking office.

20 posted on 12/01/2008 1:44:52 AM PST by Procyon (To the global warming fanatics the problem is too many people and the solution is genocide.)
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