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The Odd Story of Romance in Dreams from my Father
American Thinker ^ | November 30, 2008 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 11/30/2008 6:44:54 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 11/30/2008 6:44:54 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

It’s horribly written.


2 posted on 11/30/2008 6:54:24 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle (I will not gird my loins for Joe Biden.)
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To: neverdem

The author of this article is just as boring of a writer as the man/men he quotes.

If there is a message in there, it’s being lost in yawns.


3 posted on 11/30/2008 6:55:32 PM PST by KJC1
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To: neverdem
No one knows the real Obama. America has elected an image created for it.

And now that image can't live up to itself.

Emperor Obama hath no clothes.

And all America is watching.

4 posted on 11/30/2008 6:59:54 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: neverdem

FANTASTIC ARTICLE!! AND VERY DAMNING FOR ZERO HUSSEIN!!


5 posted on 11/30/2008 7:04:14 PM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: The Worthless Miracle

It is tedious but is accurate and to achieve that accuracy tedium was necessary. It should be oombined with the computerized study so that the two expose the ghost authorship without question. The young Obamamaniacs go into complete denial about this and the tedious nature of the exposing of the Ayers authorship is bound to drive them up the wall.


6 posted on 11/30/2008 7:06:15 PM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: Candor7

Unfortunately, I don’t think many are. These are the same people that didn’t notice anything during the campaign.

My former book group is reading The People’s History of the United States. These are 50 year old women. It’s as if everything is new again.

I’m so depressed...


7 posted on 11/30/2008 7:08:09 PM PST by madameguinot (The USA is still the greatest nation on Earth.)
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To: KJC1

Are you certain you comprehended what you read? or did you read it? This is very damning to the “O” and not a “yawn.”


8 posted on 11/30/2008 7:09:05 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: KJC1

Obviously You find life very boring! Dont You find it quite upsetting that Zero used a Terrorist to write “HIS” BOOK?


9 posted on 11/30/2008 7:09:12 PM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: neverdem

A whole nation (maybe a whole world) is going to have ‘buyers remorse’.


10 posted on 11/30/2008 7:09:46 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: AmericanVictory

I just meant the book was written poorly. It’s amazingly bad. Some of the sentences are just so weird and nonsensical.


11 posted on 11/30/2008 7:18:58 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle (I will not gird my loins for Joe Biden.)
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To: neverdem

I’ve read all of Dreams from My Father and part of Fugitive Days, and, given the fact that Rashid Khalidi acknowledged Ayers’ editing help in his own book, I am prepared to believe that Ayers assisted in editing Obama’s book.

I know that Steve Sailor did a very close reading of Obama’s book (http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/10/big-news-you-can-now-read-my-book.html) and came to the opposite conclusion from Cashill’s, that is, that Ayers likely did not render meaningful assistance.

I did notice a few jarring leftwing ideological thoughts which seemed to me artifically inserted here and there into Dreams from My Father which interrupted the natural flow of the passages in which they appear.

Obama seemed to have absorbed his mother’s anti-capitalist worldview which shows up, for example, in the cartoonish caricature of his stepfather Lolo’s American colleagues at the oil company he worked for (his mother refused to attend company dinners because she disapproved of the American businessmen). Obama also expressed the view that Indonesians would be better off weaving baskets and living in their traditional villages than working in factories (and presumably enjoying things like automobiles, refrigerators and air conditioning). And Obama’s brief time working in private industry, when he was a junior editor for a business newsletter for a year after college, was described as being “behind enemy lines.”

So I think his leftwing worldview is more likely attributed to the influence of his mother and grandfather, and people like Frank Marshall Davis, than to Ayers, although there is no doubt he palled around with Ayers and Dohrn.


12 posted on 11/30/2008 7:19:12 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: AmericanVictory

You’re right that the “tedius” details are necessary.

Taken alone there is no one smoking gun quote but all of these similarities add up to a strong case.

To me it is not tedius but a fascinating real life detective story. This is big. This is important.


13 posted on 11/30/2008 7:20:26 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: neverdem
Obama is the rare writer to fix on eyebrows -- heavy ones, bushy ones, wispy ones. There are seven references to "eyebrows" in Dreams. There are six references to eyebrows in Fugitive Days-- bushy ones, flaring ones, arched ones, black ones.

This eyebrow-fixation is unusual to the point of fetish. In my seven books I have never described anyone's eyebrows. In the lengthy excerpts that I have gathered from a half dozen other contemporary political memoirs -- 150,000 words in total-there is no mention of "eyebrows" at all.

People on the lam check out eyebrows for surprise and/or recognition. I would have said Ayers was paronoid, but they really were after him.

14 posted on 11/30/2008 7:21:16 PM PST by GOPJ (The CITI financial dike has sprung 500 leaks - we need an engineer - not more fingers.)
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To: madameguinot

Oh my! Howard Zinn’s recreation of American history.

Long ago I was the researcher for a series of AFRTS radio commercials. My boss handed me that book. I read it cover to cover. No thanks.


15 posted on 11/30/2008 7:23:18 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: Candor7

Unfortunately all of the fools who voted for Zero are blind! The 90%+ of blacks who voted for him because of his race will all claim any criticism is “Racism!” The liberals with their nozes stuck in the MSM, NYT and WaPo will be not see any criticism of the Messiah.


16 posted on 11/30/2008 7:23:37 PM PST by RightWingConspirator (Swiftboating: Revealing inconvenient truths about Democrat candidates)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
You dismiss Cashill’s case pretty easily.

But what about all those similarities. The eyebrow descriptions alone would be enough to...raise eyebrows. Who describes eyebrows so often other than Ayers and Obama?...or maybe just Ayers and Obama’s ghostwriter.

Editing a nonfiction book does not include adding details that were not in the draft except for points of clarification. If details and anecdotes are added then the editing actually becomes ghostwriting.

17 posted on 11/30/2008 7:31:18 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: neverdem

Jack Cashill went to great lengths to scientifically prove that Ayers was the author of Obama’s book.

And, if you don’t believe me, click the following and scroll down to the link just before Cashill signs his name.

http://www.cashill.com/intellect_fraud/science_points.htm

If this is the “short version of his research, I’m sure the rest of the report could wallpaper an entire bathroom.


18 posted on 11/30/2008 7:41:50 PM PST by dianed
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To: Arizona Carolyn

The article is badly written. If we are going to rely on articles like this to get the message out, we are doomed. That is all I am saying.


19 posted on 11/30/2008 7:42:56 PM PST by KJC1
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To: Monterrosa-24

I think Ayers may well have rendered meaningful stylistic assistance, including the insertion of some similes here and there and perhaps an anecdote or two (like the bit about the East River flowing both ways that Cashill described in another article).

Dreams from My Father is both well-written and wearying to get through. Why if it is well-written is it such a chore to read? It is because the thinking, if not the style, is predominantly Obama’s. Anyone who has read Obama’s book and has also heard his wife describe their daily life (she left me the impression in one interview I heard that the merits of whether to take out the trash can launch Obama into a Hamlet-like debate) recognizes the same person.


20 posted on 11/30/2008 7:44:20 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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