[Las Vegas Ron]

5-4-3-2-1.....waitng for the naysayers to show up and tell you you’re wasting our efforts.

[al baby]

IF DA BIRTH PLACE IS A LIE, BEING DA PRESIDENT AIN’T GONNA FLY!

[sickoflibs]

Just my guess. No judge will overturn the election no matter how this turns out. That being said, have fun with this. Remember how long democrats said GWB was selected? Some held on past 2004.

[KJC1]

Can you show me where in the Hawaii Revised Statutes it states that a child not born in Hawaii, to parents who are residents of Hawaii, would be certified as being born in Hawaii?

I don't see anything in the HRS section that says a BC shall/may be issued to a child born outside of Hawaii stating (erroneously) that the child was born in Hawaii as opposed to listing the actual place of birth.

That is the piece that is missing here...

[clyde260]

For later, and BUMP.

[Intolerant in NJ]

...Revised Statute 338-17.8 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the childs birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The parents would be issued a Certification of Live Birth This is not proof of where the child was born. It only proves that the parents claimed Hawaii as their main place of residence for the prior year...so since Obama presents a CLB instead of an actual Birth Ceritficate, the implication is that he wasn't born in Hawaii, because had he really been born there, he would have produced an actual BC.....

[real_patriotic_american]

Thanks for presenting this. This case is beginning to grow legs. I can see Obama being declared ineligible.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244

[Diggity]

I guess it doesn’t matter where he was born since his father was a british subject. He could have been born in times square and still not be natural born.

[christie]

Good article called Defining Natural-Born Citizen by P.A. Madison on November 18, 2008. Some excerpts:

The adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment obviously affects how we view natural-born citizens because for the first time there is a national rule of who may by birth be a citizen of the United States. Who may be born citizens of the States is conditional upon being born “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. The legislative definition of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was defined as “Not owing allegiance to anybody else.”

One universal point most all early publicists agreed on was natural-born citizen must mean one who is a citizen by no act of law. If a person owes their citizenship to some act of law (naturalization for example), they cannot be considered a natural-born citizen. This leads us to defining natural-born citizen under the laws of nature - laws the founders recognized and embraced.

[christie]

Even the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands does not accept a accept a computer generated printout of the Certification of Live Birth as proof for its eligibility requirements to apply for a Hawaiian home lands homestead lease. From its web site:

Applying for Hawaiian Home Lands

"In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."

Department of Hawaiian Home Lands

Link originally found in article from the American Thinker.

[sionnsar]

[skimask]

It would thrill me beyond words should the chosen one be declared ineligble but no judge or justice in this country is going to disqualify the first person to become President through affirmative action.

[Citizen Blade]

A natural born citizen, would not be a citizen of any other nation than the United States. That is what "natural born" means. By nature, the child, would be only a US citizen, because both of his parents were US citizens, and NO OTHER NATION, can by law claim him to be under their jurisdiction, at the moment of his birth.

Er, no, that is not what natural born means. Someone can be a natural born citizen of the US, but also be a citizen at birth of another country. Other countries' laws regarding the citizenship of a newborn have no effect on whether or not a child is a natural born US citizen.

[justiceseeker93]

Many of us here are well aware of the Hawaii statute cited in the article you posted and the fact that BO was a Brit citizen at birth pursuant to British law.

However, the precise definition of "natural-born Citizen" as it appears in the Constitution has been debatable. If it turns out that BO was born in Kenya, I would be certain that he would not be considered a "natural-born Citizen" by any objective logic. But if he was born in Hawaii - as he has always claimed yet never documented - he would have a stronger argument to claim "natural-born Citizen" status.

[Sherman Logan]

A natural born citizen, would not be a citizen of any other nation than the United States. That is what "natural born" means.

Nope. "Natural-born" refers to a citizen at birth.

There are only two categories of US citizens, natural-born and naturalized. A citizen who has not been naturalized is by definition natural-born.

If this is inaccurate, I'd appreciate someone referencing something in statute law or court decisions showing otherwise. Somebody's opinion doesn't count.

[Mashood]

“they have a name for babies born without a father, and it ain’t pretty” Jake Roedel, Ride with the Devil.

[hoosiermama]

bump

[gunnyg]

present

[Sloth]

A natural born citizen, would not be a citizen of any other nation than the United States. That is what "natural born" means.

That is simply false. Stop saying it. "Natural born citizen" means a U.S. citizen at birth, i.e., not requiring naturalization. Dual citizenship has no bearing.