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Some common sense commentary about wind power.
1 posted on 11/29/2008 8:47:21 AM PST by saganite
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To: saganite

One big problem with wind power is that the wind is not where the big urban centers are that need it. So power lines have to be built for hundreds of miles. So it is not only unreliable but costly as well.


34 posted on 11/29/2008 11:09:53 AM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: saganite

Wind power is a con job.

Environmentalists only support wind power if you are pushing a coal plant or a natgas plant. If you are actually trying to build a wind farm, they will come out and oppose that, too. They only favor wind power in theory, when thats not what you are doing. They don’t favor them in actuality, if you are trying to do it. Actually, they hate them; they kill birds, they spoil hillsides.

If you really believe in global warming, you will favor building nuke plants by the dozens. France is almost fully nuclear, to the point of exporting nuclear power. It can be done, you just have to be willing to do it.

But if you are a conman, you will ride the global warming wave to your real goal, the establishment of the carbon credit scam of the millenium, the money laundering scam to end all scams. And you will use the global warming PR hysteria to drive through complete central control of the economy. You couldn’t sell socialism under its own name, so you create a panic and present yourself as the solution.

Since most people get their news from Oprah and Comedy Central, it works.

At the end of the day, if you want to be free of carbon credit manipulation, your only choice is to move your factory to China. And set up your headquarters in Dubai.

Or, take the attitude that if you can’t beat them, join them. And hire your own carbon credit brokers and learn how to create wealth from out of thin air. We are turning our government and our economy over to the conmen, the socialists, and the socialist conmen. When government controls everything, and conmen control the government, the only free men are pirates. And half of them are sold out to the government, too.


35 posted on 11/29/2008 11:13:32 AM PST by marron
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We had a company who wanted to put from 10 to 100 turbines on our mountain. They studied the wind for a year and that’s okay but the terrain is bad. It is solid rock, it takes an hour just to drive up there so you can imagine the logistics of getting Cats, and backhoes and whatever else up there and then trying to get past the environmental laws too.

We weren’t surprised when they backed out but we are surprised because they have now approached us again.


36 posted on 11/29/2008 11:25:42 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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Periods of low wind means a need for pumped storage and essential back-up facilities. Oswald told The Register online news service that a realistically feasible U.K. pumped-storage base would only cope with one or two days of low winds at best. As regards back-up facilities, Oswald states the only feasible systems for the planned 25 gigawatt wind system would be one that relied equally on old-style natural gas turbines. As Oswald says however, the expense of a threefold wind, pump storage and gas turbine back-up solution "would be ridiculous."

At 5 minutes into this 7 minute video you will see a pump storage scheme.

Wind Power Scheme

Without massive subsidies this scheme/boondoggle is a joke.

37 posted on 11/29/2008 11:30:20 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady from the North")
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There is another element to the conjob that is wind power.

Wind power is being presented as a solution to imported oil.

There have been countless T. Boone Pickens TV ads promoting the idea that to free us from imported oil, we have to develop wind energy.

Wind energy will do nothing at all to save us from importing oil. Nothing at all. What it will do is fill his pockets, since thats where he and evidently some of our politicians are invested. His wind empire will depend on government subsidies, though, hence the need for political support. If wind energy was economically sound, why would Pickens have to invest so many millions trying to sell it to the public? Why would he need to buy politicians? If it were viable, he’d just build them and reap the profit. But there isn’t any profit without subsidy.

And supporting wind energy allows politicians who oppose oil, oppose coal, oppose nuclear power, oppose oil shale, oppose coal liquifaction, to pretend that they are energy hawks who are going to save us. Everything they do protects the power of the oil sheiks. Promoting wind power likewise protects the oil sheiks and guarantees that we will never become energy independent.

Wind power is a con designed to provide cover for politicians who are protecting the oil sheiks by their every action.


38 posted on 11/29/2008 11:41:10 AM PST by marron
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Add to that the possibility of wind power surges knocking out computers etc and you have a poor substitute. We were hit by a wind power surge last summer that killed my printer.

We are looking at energy slavery for decades until someone has courage to talk drilling/nuclear.

Pray for W, Palin and Our Troops


46 posted on 11/29/2008 12:59:16 PM PST by bray (All thats left of my 401K is a little Change and very little Hope.)
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To: saganite

Sort of makes you wonder how the Germans beat us to inventing guided missles and almost beat us in inventing the bomb. Only a fool would fall for wind-power as anything but a very minor source of power...like in a wind-mill for pumping water for livestock for example.


51 posted on 11/29/2008 6:34:41 PM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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52 posted on 11/29/2008 10:09:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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Here’s a radical idea: Why not use OIL for our energy?


53 posted on 12/07/2008 5:36:16 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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