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To: Windflier

You have a point and I do not mean to suggest that all is hopeless. It isn’t, and I think the conservatives can win. That said, I think my annoyance comes from people, not necessarily here, who make posts of what they will do, and you can tell that they are not serious.

I think it is serious. I cannot see into the future, but I can see into the past. Not as good, but it’s all I have. This has happened before in many places. People in those times and places thought it couldn’t happen. The reasoning was that it just couldn’t. We know that it did.

The Germans were not cowards, nor were they stupid. They were not given a flashpoint. The time when the flag was raised and someone yelled ‘rally round me boys’ never came. So they watched as their freedoms and their decency were compromised bit by bit.

Now you may say, well we will be watching! Were you watching when Blackwater security was deployed domestically? When National Guardsmen went around door to door seizing firearms during Katrina? When ACORN and Project Vote committed election fraud and nothing was done? When Hillary voters were physically intimidated from voting?

When it comes it will come softly in the night and you will wake to a country you do not know. To act. To do something then, will require you to do something that many cannot do. Face public embarrassment. You will be the wild haired loon shrieking ‘watch the skies, watch the skies’. You will be an embarrassment. Most people cannot do that. John McCain lost the election because he didn’t want to be called a mean name.

People you think will stand by you won’t because you will embarrass them. That’s why I believe Rush and the others haven’t covered the birth certificate issue. When it becomes publicly acceptable they will cover it. The faster we make it so, the better.


164 posted on 11/29/2008 1:03:42 AM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin

You’ve got it. We have to get this INTO public discussion.

The truth is that Barack Obama is probably qualified to be POTUS. But for all of the future of this country, we NEED to make SURE of that, and the people who protest so much and call the request itself racist might be idiots or they might be in on some kind of treachery. We won’t know until we know the documents are in order and “natural born” is fully clarified vis a vis dual nationalities and so forth.

We need the country to care about their Constitution. It’s only a Republic if we can keep it, as Ben Franklin said so long ago. We need to duck the barrage of name-calling and inform America that we are nothing as a nation without our Constitution. This is no time to treat it like an Etch-a-sketch.


168 posted on 11/29/2008 1:16:18 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Sharrukin
Now you may say, well we will be watching! Were you watching when Blackwater security was deployed domestically? When National Guardsmen went around door to door seizing firearms during Katrina?
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IIRC it was the NOPD that STOLE guns from the folks in the

area of the 9th Ward,,,(5-600 guns total),,,

Blackwater (a few) were deployed in the area of city hall.

There is still 125 LANG deployed in NOLA (last count),,,

They still cannot control the 9th Ward area,,,

One small area of a city of 250,000(last count),,,

No Way the Military can control the entire USA!!!...

176 posted on 11/29/2008 1:46:21 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Sharrukin
You have a point and I do not mean to suggest that all is hopeless. It isn’t, and I think the conservatives can win. That said, I think my annoyance comes from people, not necessarily here, who make posts of what they will do, and you can tell that they are not serious.

I believe that you can tell a boaster, a braggart - a puffed up wanna-be, if you watch them for a while. Over time you get a sense of a person's character. Even in cyberspace.

I believe that most of the people I've seen make mention of their intention to stand against threats to their liberty are telling the unvarnished truth. Most of these statements come unbidden, and are very personal. I've seen few that caused me to think they were anything but genuine.

This has happened before in many places. People in those times and places thought it couldn’t happen. The reasoning was that it just couldn’t. We know that it did.

The Germans were not cowards, nor were they stupid. They were not given a flashpoint. The time when the flag was raised and someone yelled ‘rally round me boys’ never came. So they watched as their freedoms and their decency were compromised bit by bit.

No, the Germans didn't have a flashpoint, to call them to arms. By the time the Nazi flag was raised, they'd been disarmed, and had no way to effectively resist. But, they were warned. Hitler spent years working his way up in national politics, with his Nazi party following close behind.

Germans shouldn't have feared to loudly criticize Hitler and the Nazis when they were still a small band of wacko zealots. In fact, I believe some did. Hitler even spent time in prison during the early days of the Nazi party. He wrote Mein Kampf there.

However, not enough Germans made a real effort to oppose the Nazis when it was apparent that they had grown in stature, and were becoming a real force in German politics.

It was quite obvious that they were militaristic thugs. They mocked themselves up like a para-military organization, and distributed wildly inflammatory leaflets, booklets and such across the country. The Nazis had already become what the Obots fuzzily dream of, long before they actually gained complete power over the German government.

People in Germany witnessed the rise of the Nazis and did nothing effective to stop them.

This is a bit different than what we've witnessed with Obama, though there are certainly parallels that can be drawn between the infiltration of the left in our society, and the rise of similar radical anti-establishment groups elsewhere.

I think my point is that we've all seen enough of the decline in our culture, and the concurrent rise of left-liberalism, to conclude that we'd better change our operating basis if we want to keep our country.

Since the Democrats took control of Congress in 2006, it's been clear that our side has wandered off the reservation, but with the introduction of Obama to the Presidency, and the left-wing radical agenda he brings, the urgency for us to swiftly change our modus operandi has increased to red alert stage.

When it comes it will come softly in the night and you will wake to a country you do not know. To act. To do something then, will require you to do something that many cannot do.

I don't think so. Obama is our "flashpoint". The Democrat/Socialists have overreached by running him for office. He is without doubt, the most radical candidate they could have chosen, and his brand of governance is far too steep a change for America to make without major fractures and upheavals.

No, it didn't come softly in the night. The radical Socialists might have won, had they played it that way.

America has been lazily snoozing for a very long time - only briefly awakened from its slumber by the events of 9/11. Through the 8 years of Bush, America even fell back into dreams, but Obama has awakened us with a crash. People who never cared about politics or current events before, are suddenly very concerned and interested in this transition to ---- what?

And because America is awakened, they are paying close attention. Much closer than normal. Due to Obama's radical agenda, it's unlikely that we'll snooze again anytime soon.

Obama and the Socialist Democrats have already blown it. They're under full surveillance, and have stupidly allowed their standard bearer to tip their hand. Now there is no way for them to covertly steal the last of our freedoms while we sleep. The coup is way off script and far ahead of schedule. Too bad. It's not going to happen now.

185 posted on 11/29/2008 2:50:49 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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