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To: HollyB; Post-Neolithic; DemonDeac; gost2; foobarred
The movement calls for terrorism which has dominated western security concerns. However, I have no reason to walk into a mosque and slander their religion

The "movement" is the "religion" ofIslam as a whole. Just ask your co-workers why Christians are not allowed to:
  1. build churches in Saudi Arabia
  2. cannot wear a cruifix there
  3. cannot bring in a Bible there (bibles are illegal
  4. cannot even step into Mecca or Medina (Muslim-only cities)
  5. Why are converts from Islam legally given death sentences in Saudia Arabia, Pakistan, iran, Malaysia, Algeria, Bangladesh, etc. etc


It is not a peaceful philosophy by any means. Have you even read the Koran in entirety?
76 posted on 12/01/2008 3:53:34 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: HollyB; Post-Neolithic; DemonDeac; gost2; foobarred
I'm going to clarify my position -- the philosophy of Islam is wrong. Islam is fundamentally false and fundamentally wrong -- logically, factually, morally and philosophically.

What has islam given the world?:

1. every single terrorist attack this century,

2. Mohammed's massacre of the Jewish Meccans in the 7th century

3. Timur e Lang

4. Muhammad Ghor's slaughter of Hindus in the 10th century,

5. Muhammad Ghazni's attack on India in the middle ages,

6. The Iraqis destroying Assyrian Christian Churches and murdering bishops and priests,

7. Today's attack on a Coptic Church in Egypt,

8. Islamics attacking and raping children in Beslan,

9. Muslims beheading Buddhist priests in Thailand,

10. Muslim beheadings and terrorism in southern Philippines,

11. Muslim terrorists bombing innocent party-goers in Bali,

12. Muslim terrorists bombing trains in London,

13. Muslimes bombing trains in Spain,

14. Muslims bombing trains in Bombay, Bangalore, Jaipur,

15. Muslims killing Christians and forcing conversions in Northern Nigeria,

16. Saudi Arabia arresting people for possesing Bibles or Gitas or even having a Church or Temple,

17. Somali taxi-drivers in Minnesota refusing to take blind people with seeing eye dogs,

18. Muslims attacking Israel in '48, '67, '71,

19. Muslims slaughtering Hindus and Sikhs after partitioning INdia (and still leaving a remnant of Muslims in India),

20. Islam reducing Zoroastrians in Iran, Buddhists in Central Asia, Christians in the Middle East to dhimmitude and forcibly taking their sons and daughters and converting them and putting them as janissaries or into the harem.

I could go on.

The root cause is the philosophy of death preached by Islam. Islam is no more than a mish-mash of pre-Islamic worship of the moon god Sin (with his daughters allat, Uzzat and Amat) mixed with misunderstandings from Zoroastrianism, Arianism, Judaism and Nestorian Christianity.

Islam's holy book reads like the Mein Kampf -- zero coherence, contradicting itself and contradicting history.

Islam's philosophy is at root based on wrong data or wilful misinterpretation of data and history: e.g. for 2640 years the Israelites said Abraham was about to sacrifice Isaac, however Mohammed comes and says no, it was Ishmael (an attempt to link Arabs to Abraham and mish-mash Judaism so that Mohammed could form an Arab league).

Another one -- the Koran says that Mary gave birth to Christ under a tree in the desert: completely unlike the description in the bible and suspiciously like the other description of a birth in Revelations: proof that Mohammed mish-mashed bits and pieces to form his cult

There are more including the Hadiths that say the sun revolves around the earth (note: it's in the HAdith so is a tenet of Islamic belief).


The Koran also preaches death to infidels and mandates their killing. No other religion does that.

For Islamics, the only solution is for all to convert (or as they say it, to revert) to Islam. nothing else.

Tell me one good thing, one new philosophy that the profit brought? None. This cult started out as a personal chance to grab power by unifying tribes and it grew to a culture of death, worship of the demon Chemosh's lord, Satan.
What will it take for people to realize the Koran (Muslims consider every word in the Koran to be the sacred word of God) instructs them to kill us and take our lands?

80- 90 percent of the Koran is filled with hate, racism, bigotry and unimaginable cruelty.

The terrorists haven’t ‘hijacked Islam’. They have only followed instructions in the manual of murder and mayhem, the Koran.

THE KORAN PROMISES COUNTRIES TO CONQUER AND THE SPOILS THERIN:
Sura 33 “And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden” (33.27) .

MUSLIMS ARE INSTRUCTED IN THE KORAN TO BE STILL UNTIL THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS IN THE COUNTRIES THEY HAVE INVADED:
“Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength” (86.17).

THE KORAN INSTRUCTS MUSLIMS TO FIGHT CHRISTIANS, JEWS AND CONQUER THE WORLD FOR ISLAM:
(The following are only a few of the verses commanding Muslims to fight)

WARFARE IS ORDAINED FOR YOU, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. (2.216)

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

“AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

THE FOUNDER OF CAIR HAS TOLD US PLAINLY OF ISLAM’S plans for AMERICA:

“ISLAM ISN’T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don’t need to look somewhere else.” OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.

Just how d*mn plain do the Muslims have to make it before we ‘get it’??

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81 posted on 12/01/2008 4:14:02 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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