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To: oldleft

A big problem in Calif is that the flood of legal and illegal Hispanics have overtaxed the taxpayer supported health and welfare systems.

After all, social safety nets don’t work well when more folks are using them than not.

And the Hispanics tend to have big families. My cynical observation is that most of the child-bearing age Hispanic women I see around the city are either pregnant, carrying/leading multiple kids, or pregnant and carrying/leading multiple kids.

That said, though the Hispanics vote Democrat as they vote for whoever offers them the most freebies (and Dem’s excell at vote buying), they tend to have traditional family values by and large and are pleasant folk to live around.


16 posted on 11/28/2008 6:59:05 AM PST by OldArmy52 (Change a Socialist can believe in: Vote Obama. Your dog and dead Gramma did.)
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To: OldArmy52
they tend to have traditional family values by and large and are pleasant folk to live around.

Yeah, if you don't mind the goats, drunken parties every Sunday and incessant oompah music.

It's like any other group. Some are fine, others not. The trouble is a lack of a unifying national culture. Multiculturalism has doomed us to fighting one another for dominance. This is the legacy of not teaching and instilling a national unifying culture. Now we are defined solely by race or cultural group.

23 posted on 11/28/2008 7:18:41 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: OldArmy52
they tend to have traditional family values by and large and are pleasant folk to live around.

Does traditional family values include 50% out of wedlock births?

Hispanic Family Values? Runaway illegitimacy is creating a new U.S. underclass.

27 posted on 11/28/2008 7:22:19 AM PST by kabar
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To: OldArmy52
...they tend to have traditional family values by and large and are pleasant folk to live around.

I live in California. I'm sorry, but they are not pleasant folk to live around, at least not the recent immigrants. They have loud, all-night parties with mariachi music blasting. Their kids run screeching through the aisles of stores and the mothers do nothing about it. As my town has become more and more Latino, the following has increased: Crime. Graffiti. Abandoned shopping carts everywhere. Rusty cars and old sofas left on lawns. Bars on doors and windows. Chickens and goats in yards. "Day laborers" gathered in parking lots, leering and making animal noises at women who walk by. Rude store employees who act put out if you ask them to speak English. Car accidents where the Latino driver runs from the scene and turns out to have been unlicensed, uninsured, and/or illegal. Etc., etc.

There's a reason why people are fleeing California. There's a reason why even American-born Latinos complain about the recent immigrants. They are NOT pleasant to live around.

50 posted on 11/28/2008 8:08:31 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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