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Doves keep the faith as Obama team tilts right (building panic in Leftie Land)
Politico ^ | 11/27/08 | Martin

Posted on 11/27/2008 7:42:25 AM PST by pabianice

Leading opponents of the war have mostly been silent as president-elect Barack Obama, who first built his national image on the foundation of his early opposition to the Iraq war, assembles a group of national security hands that is anything but a team of doves.

It's a disorienting moment for the peace wing of the Democratic Party, at once elated America selected a new president opposed to the Iraq war and momentarily disoriented by the imminent removal of a commander-in-chief whose every action they've opposed for the past eight years.

“Shock has paralyzed them for the moment,” said Steven Clemons, a senior fellow at the New America Foundation who writes The Washington Note, a popular foreign policy blog. “We are in an Obama bubble now. And it’s tough to step out and be first to deflate the bubble.”

Especially, he added, before that bubble takes shape.

“You’ve got some people like myself who are saying there may be an interesting design in what Obama is trying to do. Maybe it doesn’t fit easily in a neatly sculpted box of liberal pacifist and warmonger hawk. Maybe it’s more complex than that.”

Still, it’s clearly a team that tilts to the right of Democratic foreign policy thought.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2008; bhodod; bhogwot; bhosecdef; obama; obamatransitionfile
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“You’ve got some people like myself who are saying there may be an interesting design in what Obama is trying to do. Maybe it doesn’t fit easily in a neatly sculpted box of liberal pacifist and warmonger hawk. Maybe it’s more complex than that.”

ROTFLMAO! I love watching these Leftists tie their tongues in knots of psychobabble.

1 posted on 11/27/2008 7:42:25 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

he’s got to take heat from his base—the left.

he promoted anti-war and anti-bush rhetoric,

now he’s accepting iraq and the clintons.

hillary voted for the war.


2 posted on 11/27/2008 7:44:14 AM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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Just mentioned on CNN: Obama to keep US troops in Iraq until December, 2011, followed by a “peace-keeping force.” LOL! LOL!


3 posted on 11/27/2008 7:44:42 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice
Cries of despair from the Left
4 posted on 11/27/2008 7:46:31 AM PST by pabianice
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During the campaign Barry clearly stated he would move our forces out of Iraq and into Afghanistan, and that he would invade Pakistan. He also called for universal service to the country (a draft).

What is so hard for the lefties to understand? Why did they vote for this guy?


5 posted on 11/27/2008 7:46:42 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: pabianice

One thing that the morons on the left just don’t seem to get is, if you’ve seen one politician, you’ve seen them all. Skin color doesn’t change anything. They are all the same and are after the same thing. Money, power and screwing over the taxpayers.


6 posted on 11/27/2008 7:49:17 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (For more information on America's "new direction", read The Road to Serfdom. by Friedrich A. Hayek.)
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They love to make the simple complex don't they. "Nuance" over reality any day. The reality is, obama has now been briefed and now he knows the limits and parameters of his options. The same as they were for Bush--few and not very diverse.
7 posted on 11/27/2008 7:50:41 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Too many people underestimated him on both sides of the aisle. He’s far from stupid and all too willing to say what he needs to be said in the moment to garner attention and votes. He was told by people in the know that if he just pulls out of Iraq then the place goes to pot in no time flat and he gets the blame. Not only that he loses the trust of the military and that simply won’t fly either.

He’s going to be far more centrist than promised which will be really hard to beat in 4 years.


8 posted on 11/27/2008 7:50:41 AM PST by misterrob (Smooth talkers win at singles bars and in politics .. often with similar outcomes for the listener)
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Hey, “Doves”........welcome to reality. This ain’t a college lecture series - it’s reality


9 posted on 11/27/2008 7:51:07 AM PST by TexasNative2000
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“You’ve got some people like myself who are saying there may be an interesting design in what Obama is trying to do. Maybe it doesn’t fit easily in a neatly sculpted box of liberal pacifist and warmonger hawk. Maybe it’s more complex than that.”

Or, MAYBE this empty suit is just another Clintoon liar...welcome to the real world, you leftist idiots...


10 posted on 11/27/2008 7:51:50 AM PST by jessduntno (Barack - Kenyan for "High Wind, Big Thunder, No Rain")
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To: FlingWingFlyer
if you’ve seen one politician, you’ve seen them all.

So, you're saying that all politicians look alike to you? Do their houses have that "funny smell"?

11 posted on 11/27/2008 7:52:15 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. -C.S. Lewis)
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No doubt Obama doesn't want to go down in history as the guy who gave Iran the world's single greatest storehouse of untapped liquid hydrocarbons.

His friends in Moscow would never forgive him.

12 posted on 11/27/2008 7:52:32 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jeff Chandler

Hey! Some of my “best friends” are politicians!


13 posted on 11/27/2008 7:53:43 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (For more information on America's "new direction", read The Road to Serfdom. by Friedrich A. Hayek.)
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To: misterrob

He doesn’t last four years. Not that he won’t hold office, but he’s going to be ignored by events.


14 posted on 11/27/2008 7:53:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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Its amazing what a dose of reality has done for “the chosen one” huh? He told those idiots that all of the world would love us if we elected him king. Now it seems that the world doesn't want to sing kumbaya with us anymore.

Guess what, they still hate us.

15 posted on 11/27/2008 7:54:23 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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It's ironic and telling that we have a president-elect who defeated his primary opponent by running on "immediate pull-out in Iraq." Then he defeated an opponent who goaded him into actually going to Iraq, after which he changed his position. The peacniks still vote for him after he basically adopted Hillary's position.

I wonder if his first major flip-flop will be forgotten.

16 posted on 11/27/2008 7:55:36 AM PST by nufsed
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To: BigBobber

Like everything else about his life, Barry told all the lies he needed to to get what he wanted. I love these naieve lefties. It reminds me of 1975 all over again. Around that time, everyone woke up and realized everything they had been complaining about for the last eight years didn’t even really matter because the events and policies of a great nation have a life of their own.

Obama is finding out now, from his “experienced” advisors, that there was very little Bush was actually doing that didn’t make logical sense once you knew all the behind the scenes forces at play. His only improvement over Bush can really be temperment and communications style which have been Bush’s only real flaw since the beginning.

I give the lefties three months after innauguration day to take the gloves off and start publicly admitting they have been had. The first sign that this whole exercise is not a mandate will be a Chambliss victory for Senate in December. People wanted their black president. Now they can go back to their sofas and expect he will fix everything and pay their mortgages too!


17 posted on 11/27/2008 7:55:53 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: misterrob
Do not worry about how to defeat him in four years, worry about what is he is going to do in the next four years. The man has no leadership qualities and in time of war that is the worst thing to have in a President. If you think that Obama can take a strong stand in the war, take the heat when the going gets tough and stays the course as President Bush did then you are deluding yourself.
18 posted on 11/27/2008 7:56:39 AM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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“Shock has paralyzed them for the moment,” said Steven Clemons, a senior fellow at the New America Foundation who writes The Washington Note, a popular foreign policy blog. “We are in an Obama bubble now. And it’s tough to step out and be first to deflate the bubble.”

How’s it feel to be used Stevie. Maybe Barry can give you a cigarette.


19 posted on 11/27/2008 7:56:44 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: misterrob
I'm find with him if he goes more centrist. The reason I woke up on Nov. 5th in a state of panic, is I was worried he was going to do all the idiot things he campaigned on. LUckily, he isn't stupid and he is hopefully accepting the reality of the situation in Iraq.

I want what is best for our country, and if O does what's best for our country, I'm okay with that.

20 posted on 11/27/2008 7:57:09 AM PST by Wonderama Mama (Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money - Margaret Thatcher)
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