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Good Deeds: The Backlash (against mandatory community service)
New York Times ^ | November 26, 2008 | Douglas Quenqua

Posted on 11/27/2008 7:01:36 AM PST by reaganaut1

Through the holidays and beyond, high school students will be working feverishly to serve the needy — packing food baskets, ladling meals at soup kitchens, collecting toys for children in hospitals — all in the name of amassing the community service credits they need for graduation.

Cynics call these programs a form of forced altruism. Proponents say that they widen students’ horizons while getting service work done. Either way, the backlash has begun: not only do college admissions officers roll their eyes at bogus-sounding claims, but high schools are scaling back the requirements, acknowledging that a lot of the so-called service is meaningless.

When Lauren Swierczek took over last year as director of community service at Riverdale Country School, a private school in the Bronx whose students hail mainly from Manhattan (tuition: about $35,000 a year), she was troubled by the program she inherited. “What I was finding was that the fixation was more on hours than acts of service,” she said. Worse still, some students “weren’t actually doing it,” she said. “Documents were forged.”

Students from wealthy families were “knocking out their service hours with one total trip,” like a three-week summer jaunt to Costa Rica or the Galápagos Islands, Ms. Swierczek said. These teen tours, which cost $4,000 or more, use as a selling point the ability to rack up as many as 80 hours of community service. When they are not cleaning debris from beaches or teaching English to local schoolchildren, the travelers enjoy heavy doses of kayaking and scuba lessons.

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Mrs. Stern recalled being dismayed watching her eldest son, a ninth grader, do the kind of community service that helped no one, like stacking books in a synagogue library or checking its pens for ink.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bho2008; communityorganizers; communityservice; impressed; obama; obamatransitionfile; slavery
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I think working at a part-time job and studying hard in high school so that one is prepared to graduate from college in 4 years (not 5 or 6) are valuable forms of "community service".
1 posted on 11/27/2008 7:01:36 AM PST by reaganaut1
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let alone babysitting a sibling so a parent can work, or helping an infirm Grandma.


2 posted on 11/27/2008 7:05:43 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: reaganaut1

Arbeit macht frei!


3 posted on 11/27/2008 7:07:05 AM PST by stboz
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Rand said it best through the great Howard Roark.

“It has to be said....the world is perishing in an orgy of self-sacrifice.”


4 posted on 11/27/2008 7:07:46 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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My Church has all kinds of ways that high schoolers can volunteer to help the needy. Not only do they help people, they spread the Gospel to those who need to hear it. The kids love doing it, too. Will they have the same attitude when the “community service” is mandatory?


5 posted on 11/27/2008 7:08:54 AM PST by yawningotter
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What’s this? The NY Times presenting an article detailing the fraud that is socialism? Or is it rather an expose by a times “reporter” annoyed at the lack of true interest shown by the privileged classes! You make the call.


6 posted on 11/27/2008 7:10:05 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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By definition, "service" isn't service if it's mandatory. What we have today is military SERVICE.

What we had in WW II was a military obligation. There is a difference, but when it comes to "community work," the difference is huge. You get what you pay for, i.e., nothing.

7 posted on 11/27/2008 7:10:31 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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So, lets see if I understand this correctly. , , If I work hard and graduate from H.S. with straight ‘A’s, my college will penalize me if I don’t spend “extra” time involved in some pre-authorized form of ‘approved’ altruistic “community Service”???

Something my Father told me when I was young comes to mind. “Altruism is at best self defeating, and at worst a slow form of suicide”


8 posted on 11/27/2008 7:13:24 AM PST by MCCRon58 (Freedom does not mean you are free from the consequences of your own freely made decisions.)
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Mandatory community service is a crazy idea — only the most fascistic mentality would entertain the concept.


9 posted on 11/27/2008 7:16:33 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: yawningotter

Socialists believe that all private charity is evil and selfish. They believe that the state should be the only entity allowed to give largess, be it time or money.


10 posted on 11/27/2008 7:17:56 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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The Hitler Youth also engaged in community service projects.


11 posted on 11/27/2008 7:19:28 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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Do you think that any Times reporters volunteer to help
anyone?


12 posted on 11/27/2008 7:19:32 AM PST by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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The Hitler Youth also engaged in community service projects.


13 posted on 11/27/2008 7:19:54 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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Mandatory volunteerism was standard in the USSR. “Free saturdays” they were called, with workers mustered to sweep streets or harvest vegetables without pay.

Expect much more of this in Obama’s USSA.


14 posted on 11/27/2008 7:26:01 AM PST by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: MCCRon58

If a student is diligent to make their grades, involved in extra-curricular things like sports, it is very hard to find time for community service unless it fits into their circle of activities. That should always be encouraged because there are to many people that won’t volunteer. But mandating is totalitarian and cheapens the meaning.


15 posted on 11/27/2008 7:26:15 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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“but high schools are scaling back the requirements, “

Wait till the Civilian National Security Force conscription hit these morons right between the eyes, direct from fearless leader.


16 posted on 11/27/2008 7:26:32 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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At my local high school they do this big fundraiser every year that is an all nighter. They kids set up tents on the football field and take turns walking the track for money for some charity. Don't ask me about the details, because I thought it was the dumbest thing..

Why not just rent a hotel for the teenagers and let them spend the night there and have sex all evening, because that's what they do at this so called 'fundraiser'. My daughter went for a half an hour and came home and said it was practically an orgy with kids runnng in and out of tents half maked. There was maybe three adults supervising and they were probably downing the martinis.

anyway my complaints feel on deaf ears because the principal said they made a lot of money and the kids were earning their community 'service' and he had't heard any other complaints.

I live in the twilight zone...Los Angeles.

17 posted on 11/27/2008 7:29:12 AM PST by Wonderama Mama (Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money - Margaret Thatcher)
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I don’t believe in community service . . . I’d rather not have a criminal working around charitable agencies or with children. Put them in jail . . . that’s what courts are supposed to do.


18 posted on 11/27/2008 7:29:20 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Oldpuppymax

Well, my call is that your second observation is on the mark.
The “reporter” was as you said “annoyed at the lack of true interest shown by the privileged classes”.


19 posted on 11/27/2008 7:30:02 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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Long ago, when I was in high school, our sociology teacher required us to perform community service projects. I, a gangly uncoordinated white kid, was assigned to teach basketball to inner city black kids.

That is who meaningless so-called community service can be.

20 posted on 11/27/2008 7:32:08 AM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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