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To: solfour
For example, where will you find a definition of the difference between a jury and a victim, outside of a joke book?

A legal dictionary.

The term “natural born” is obviously meant to restrict the class of citizens. Articles I have read, by Donofrio and Judah Benjamin among others plus the use of the word “natural” convince me that the term is intended to restrict consideration to those who are born with undivided allegiance, that is, with both parents as citizens or, on some intrepretations, at least the father as a citizen.

Donofrio's and you opinion's aside, I'd still like to know what legally defines the difference between 'citizen at birth' and 'natural born citizen'. What law or article of the Constitution or Supreme Court decision did that? What writings of the Founding Father's could possibly be taken to mean that Obama and McCain are not Constitutionally eligible to be president. I certainly can't think of any.

You can find posts here at FreeRepublic that discuss this issue in greater detail.

None of them answer any of the questions I am now posing to you.

96 posted on 11/27/2008 9:51:25 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

No legal dictionary defines the difference between “jury” and “victim”. It defines the terms separately.

As for “natural born” it is not defined anywhere in statutory law or in the Constitution, although used therein, like many words in the Constitution that are not defined except by the usage at the time. To understand it you need to be familiar with the history of the term. I refer you again to Donofrio and Benjamin.

The concept of natural born is quite simple. It springs from the simple concept of a people, like “the English people”. The idea is that by nature people are born from two parents. You are natural born part of the English people if you came from the seed of an English man and the womb of an English woman. Flesh from flesh.

Orthodox Judaism is similar except they go only on the basis of the woman. You are a Jew if you came out of a Jew.

The requirement of natural born is due to it being a strong indicator of undivided allegiance.

I hope this clears things up.

Are you an Obama supporter?


101 posted on 11/27/2008 10:13:05 AM PST by solfour
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To: Non-Sequitur

You seem to continually ignore the fact that Hussein has not released one iota, jot, scintilla, crumb, atom, or shred of reasonably irrefutable evidence that he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN SO THAT WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE NECESSARY TO END ALL THIS SPECULATION!!!!!!!

(sorry to scream so loud but I’m starting to get pissed off)


126 posted on 11/27/2008 6:33:37 PM PST by DMZFrank
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