Alan Keyes Tells Us Why He Questions Obama's [the Kenyan's] Presidency

Essence ^ | 11/21/08 | Cynthia Gordy

[solfour]

The Constitution requires that, to be president, one must be a natural born citizen of the United States. Conservative Alan Keyes-who ran against President-elect Barack Obama in the 2004 race for the Illinois Senate, and in the 2008 U.S. presidential campaign (Keyes ran on the American Independent Party ticket)-is challenging whether that is the case for our new president. In November, Keyes filed a lawsuit against Obama, the California secretary of state, and others, to stop California from giving its electoral votes to Obama until a birth certificate is produced proving that he is indeed a natural born citizen. ESSENCE.com talked to Keyes about where he thinks Obama was born, why he questions the birth records already provided, and if this whole lawsuit is just an overblown case of sour grapes.

ESSENCE.COM: What exactly do you want to accomplish with this lawsuit?

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The reason an issue has been raised about Obama is because of the simple question, which can be answered with a birth certificate that shows he was born in the United States, or born to parents who had the capacity to transmit U.S. citizenship. When the question was asked, he danced around it. If the most important office of the federal government can be occupied by someone who is not qualified under the United States Constitution, that destroys the authority of the Constitution. I think it's something that needs to be dealt with in a clear, straightforward way. Eventually the case will get to the Supreme Court, establish the facts, and clear the air. It's really all very simple.

[FrankR]

"I have questioned from the beginning about whether there was even a “marriage” between Stanley Ann and Barry SR.

IMO. She got knocked up, and Barry H is the result. "

I share your opinion on that.

Barry....you got some 'splainin' to do....

[Non-Sequitur]

I think you’re getting worried, obot.

I think you're getting desperate, moonbat.

[Non-Sequitur]

Is it legal under the campaign laws for NObama to be spending campaign donations in this manner???

Yep. The Democratic party was one of the defendants. If the money isn't coming from them it's still a campaign expense.

[solfour]

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

[MississippiMan]

I have great appreciation for the incredible amount of work Polarik put into this analysis. That said, it’s way obvious that he is not practiced at creating forensic reports. While he makes some excellent points, the narrative is so long and rambling that it becomes a great chore just to make it through it. If expert reports become a factor in any of the pending litigation, I hope the plaintiffs have been smart enough to retain experts who can not only perform great analysis, but great presentation, as well. Both are critical.

This is NOT meant to disparage Polarik in the least.

MM

[DMZFrank]

You seem to continually ignore the fact that Hussein has not released one iota, jot, scintilla, crumb, atom, or shred of reasonably irrefutable evidence that he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN SO THAT WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE NECESSARY TO END ALL THIS SPECULATION!!!!!!!

(sorry to scream so loud but I’m starting to get pissed off)

[AlanGreenSpam]

Here’s an even more compelling video by a guy who looked a HEX Editor of the Obama image file, where it’s clearly got “Photoshop” mod traces!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE

[no dems]

EXCELLENT ARTICLE!

[lentulusgracchus]

If he is found to be fraudulently President, he would be impeached, forced to resign and Biden would be President.

Would a Democratic-controlled House of Soviets run by Nancy Pelosi, or a Senate dominated by DemonRats, vote to sustain articles of impeachment against The One?

I think impeachment is a nonstarter.

[lentulusgracchus]

Mamma got knocked up at 17. Had Barry when she was 18. had to be 19 under the “naturalized” rules in place at that time- 1961.

JMHO, I think her marriage to Obama Sr. was bigamous and therefore null and void under U.S. law, so she wasn't "married" in the first place. Barry Jr. is the illegitimate issue of a U.S. citizen, but therefore a natural-born citizen nonetheless regardless of birthplace. There is no Kenyan issue.

There is, however, a big, fat Indonesian issue that hasn't been addressed, either.

[Non-Sequitur]

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

Don't build something into it that wasn't there.

[Non-Sequitur]

You seem to continually ignore the fact that Hussein has not released one iota, jot, scintilla, crumb, atom, or shred of reasonably irrefutable evidence that he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN SO THAT WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE NECESSARY TO END ALL THIS SPECULATION!!!!!!!

I've also noticed the fact that nobody has released one iota, jot, scintilla, crumb, atom, or shred of reasonably irrefutable evidence that he was not born in the U.S.

[Non-Sequitur]

So they have one “on file”, why doesn’t he SHOW IT TO THE COURT instead of sending lawyers out the yin yang to dismiss it. It wouldn’t even need dimissing if he would send a certified document into the court. It would have been long long ago. The fact that he hasn’t, and has blocked suits instead of just ending it speaks volumes to me.

The court hasn't requested he produce it. That's probably the primary reason.

When I go in to get my drivers license at 16, I must show a certified copy. I can’t say “I was born on this date. Prove otherwise”. So to be able to DRIVE A CAR takes more than my word, why shouldn’t the POTUS have to do more?

And as I've pointed out before, you produce your birth certificate to the DMV because the law requires it. Show me what law specifices Obama, or any other candidate, must show their birth certificate to a designated agency by a specified time in order to run for president and I'll be out there demanding he produce it along side you.

And just because they have a birth certificate doesn’t mean he was born there. Hawaii when it was a new state had a statute (until 1972) that allowed you to register a birth outside of the state IN Hawaii.

So if Obama tomorrow appeared before the press showing the original copy of his birth certificate you still wouldn't believe him because you wouldn't accept that as proof he was born there. So what would he really, really have to do to satisfy you're curiosity?

[Non-Sequitur]

However, until the allegation has been proven false, I would not give Obama the benefit of the doubt, PARTICULARLY since he has refused to take the amazingly simple action that could put this all to rest, which is to provide his long form birth certificate that shows definitively where he was born. Why does he refuse to put this to rest? Until he does so, he does NOT deserve the benefit of the doubt.

And the affidavit, with all its errors, does?

I will assume that you are not being disingenuous and are not aware that the birth certificate on file could simply be a registration of Obama’s birth.

The state officials refer to it as Obama's original birth certificate and not a certificate of live birth.

But I assume that you're referring to the law allowing people to get a birth certificate at a later date. Assuming, for the sake of arguement, that means what you all think it means then now what? If you honestly do not believe Obama was born in Hawaii then you're back to the problem that there is not a single bit of solid evidence that Obama was born outside the U.S. No documents. No affidavits, other than those full of elementary errors. No nothing. So even if Obama presented his birth certificate tomorrow, you're still stuck with proving he isn't eligible to be president. You're not having a lot of luck in that area.

[autumnraine]

I would accept proof he was born there if the birth certificate said he was born there.

[DMZFrank]

“I’ve also noticed the fact that nobody has released one iota, jot, scintilla, crumb, atom, or shred of reasonably irrefutable evidence that he was not born in the U.S.””

You obviously don’t care about this constitutional requirement. He has been challenged to produce the evidence. He REFUSES to do so. EVERY other candidate who has been challenged on this issue in the 20th and 21st century (George Romney, Barry Goldwater, John McCain) has readily provided the requisite information WITHOUT A COUURT FIGHT BLOCKING ACCESS TO THE REQUISITE DATA. This clown has spent near to a MILLILION DOLLARS TO DO SO and you attach no significance to such actions? God help the republic if everyone is as credulous as you. I am forced to conclude that you want to see him get away with the greatest electoral fraud in history. nothing else makes sense, which is why I conclude that Hussein is balking because he knows that the BC will prove his ineligibility.

[Non-Sequitur]

You obviously don’t care about this constitutional requirement. He has been challenged to produce the evidence.

I think it should go both ways. Evidence that he wasn't born here should be produced as well. So far, nothing.

I am forced to conclude that you want to see him get away with the greatest electoral fraud in history. nothing else makes sense, which is why I conclude that Hussein is balking because he knows that the BC will prove his ineligibility.

You can assume whatever you want. Your opinions are of no interest to me.

[El Gato]

The Supreme Court will do everything it can to avoid adjudicating this issue—disqualifying an legitimately elected president (especially the first black one)

But he would not have been legitimately elected if he is not eligible. His very nomination would be illegitimate.

But the Supreme Court had best consider not only the potential actions of Obama supporters should he be DQ'd, but also of those who did not support him, as well as those who would feel, nay be, betrayed by an individual not eligible "stealing" their votes.

[El Gato]

I think your intrepretation of this has nothing to do with the military aspect of being born overseas. If so, there are thousands of military dependents roaming around who think they are citizens...what a shock for them.

He's not saying your son (and potentially your daughter) are not citizens, just that they are not natural born citizens.

There are only two classes of citizens, natural born and naturalized. The question is, and I don't have an answer to it, are "citizen at birth" and "natural born citizen" the same thing, or should "citizen at birth" be considered "naturalized at birth"?

But either way, if The Messiah was born in Kenya, he's not a natural born citizen, since he wasn't born of two US Citizens (his criteria), and he wasn't born in the US, and his mother did not meet the required US residency criteria to transmit citizenship to him.

[El Gato]

“(2) Any person born outside the United States to a U.S. citizen parent or parents who are eligible to transmit citizenship...’

O’s mother was a citizen...thus where ever O was born, he is a natural born citizen. Right?

You missed that "parent or parents who are eligible to transmit citizenship" part. The "parent or parents" goes with "who are eligible", "parent" does not stand on it's own, otherwise the rest would be not be required.

Stanley Ann Dunham-Obama was not so eligible, and BHO Sr was not a citizen of the US at all.