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To: PAR
However, until the allegation has been proven false, I would not give Obama the benefit of the doubt, PARTICULARLY since he has refused to take the amazingly simple action that could put this all to rest, which is to provide his long form birth certificate that shows definitively where he was born. Why does he refuse to put this to rest? Until he does so, he does NOT deserve the benefit of the doubt.

And the affidavit, with all its errors, does?

I will assume that you are not being disingenuous and are not aware that the birth certificate on file could simply be a registration of Obama’s birth.

The state officials refer to it as Obama's original birth certificate and not a certificate of live birth.

But I assume that you're referring to the law allowing people to get a birth certificate at a later date. Assuming, for the sake of arguement, that means what you all think it means then now what? If you honestly do not believe Obama was born in Hawaii then you're back to the problem that there is not a single bit of solid evidence that Obama was born outside the U.S. No documents. No affidavits, other than those full of elementary errors. No nothing. So even if Obama presented his birth certificate tomorrow, you're still stuck with proving he isn't eligible to be president. You're not having a lot of luck in that area.

134 posted on 11/28/2008 5:05:56 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
there is not a single bit of solid evidence that Obama was born outside the U.S. No documents. No affidavits,

But there are recorded oral statements to that effect from his Kenyan relatives in position to know, if he had been born in Kenya. Also the statement,also recorded, of the Kenyan Ambassador to the US. That was later disavowed, claiming he was "misquoted", but like I said, it was recorded oral statement, with no "quoting" required. But in disavowing it, he also verified that he was the one who made it, not some actor pretending to be him.

But one does not need "solid evidence" to request more evidence, only a "probable cause to believe"

153 posted on 11/28/2008 6:35:15 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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