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Who could be behind the Mumbai attacks?
The South African Mercury / Reuters ^ | November 27, 2008

Posted on 11/27/2008 12:59:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Mumbai - Militants armed with automatic weapons and grenades attacked luxury hotels, hospitals and a famous tourist cafe in India's commercial capital Mumbai late on Wednesday, killing at least 86 people.

* WHO IS BEHIND THE ATTACKS?

Witnesses say the attackers were young South Asian men speaking Hindi or Urdu, suggesting that they are probably members of an Indian militant group rather than foreigners.

The attacks were claimed by a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen in an e-mail to news organisations. Deccan is an area of southern India.

Analysts say that while it is not clear whether the claim is genuine, the attacks were most likely carried out by a group called the Indian Mujahideen.

The name used in the claim of responsibility suggests the attackers could be members of a south Indian offshoot or cell of the Indian Mujahideen.

* WHO ARE THE INDIAN MUJAHIDEEN?

Indian police say the Indian Mujahideen is an offshoot of the banned Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), but that local Muslims appear to have been given training and backing from militant groups in neighbouring Pakistan and Bangladesh.

SIMI has been blamed by police for almost every major bomb attack in India, including explosions on commuter trains in Mumbai two years ago that killed 187 people.

Police said the Indian Mujahideen may also include former members of the Bangladeshi militant group Harkat-ul-Jihad al Islami.

* WHY ARE THEY SUSPECTED OF BEING BEHIND THE MUMBAI ATTACKS?

The Indian Mujahideen have made credible claims of responsibility for most of the recent major attacks on civilian targets in India over the past two years.

The Mumbai attacks appear to have been carefully co-ordinated, well-planned and involved a large number of attackers.

A high level of sophistication has also been a hallmark of previous attacks by the Indian Mujahideen.

The Mumbai attacks also focused clearly on tourist targets, including two luxury hotels and a famous cafe.

In May, the Indian Mujahideen made a specific threat to attack tourist sites in India unless the government stopped supporting the United States in the international arena.

The threat was made in an email claiming responsibility for bomb attacks that killed 63 people in the tourist city of Jaipur.

The email, signed by "Guru Al-Hindi", declared "open war against India" and included the serial number of one of the bicycles on which the bombs were left.

Witnesses in Mumbai say the attackers in Mumbai singled out Americans and Britons in their attacks.

* WHAT OTHER ATTACKS HAVE INDIAN MUJAHIDEEN CARRIED OUT?

The group first emerged during a wave of bombings in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh in November 2007, sending an email to media outlets just before some of the bombs exploded.

Their next attacks were the Jaipur blasts.

On 25 July, eight small bomb attacks in the IT city of Bangalore on 25 July that killed at least one person and wounded 15. There was no known claim of responsibility.

But a day later, at least 16 bombs exploded in Ahmedabad in the state of Gujarat, killing 45 and wounding 161.

Shortly before the blasts, an email in the name of the Indian Mujahideen was sent to local media warning that people would soon "feel the terror of death" in the name of Allah.

It said the attacks were revenge for the Gujarat riots of 2002, when around 2 500 people, most of them Muslims, were killed by Hindu mobs.

A later email accused several state governments of harassing, imprisoning and torturing Muslims and threatened consequences if they did not stop.

In September, at least five bombs exploded in crowded markets and streets in New Delhi, killing at least 18 people.

The Indian Mujahideen sent out an e-mail moments after the first blast in New Delhi, saying the explosions were to prove its capability to strike in the most secure of Indian cities.

* WHAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT THE MUMBAI ATTACKS?

All previous incidents in which the Indian Mujahideen are suspected of involvement involved co-ordinated serial bombs.

The Mumbai attacks also show clear signs of coordination but were carried out by gunmen, some carrying grenades.

The tactics - a military-style assault on soft targets, singling out foreigners, and taking hostages - are rare and do not fit the usual methods of militant attacks on civilian areas.

However, similar attacks have been carried out before, notably the May 2004 attacks in the eastern Saudi city of Khobar.

Gunmen attacked two oil industry installations and a foreign workers' housing complex in the city, taking more than 50 hostages and killing 22 of them.

The attackers asked hostages whether they were Christian or Muslim before deciding whom to kill.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deccanmujahideen; globaljihad; india; islam; jihad; mohammedanism; mumbai; muslims; radicalislam; terrorism; wot
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To: chessplayer

well if you read some of the headlines this morning, they certainly make it sound like he has already assumed the Presidency.


41 posted on 11/27/2008 4:54:06 AM PST by MashieNiblick16
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To: chessplayer

so those idiots, who scream Bushitler ignored the Constitution in his pursuit of of bad guys and demanded it (the Constitution) be followed, now want to throw the Constitution out because it suits them???

ROFL..I wonder what it’s like to live in an alternate reality..


42 posted on 11/27/2008 4:55:31 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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To: skimask

If the terrorist attacks had taken place before nov 4, do you think Senator McCain could have been elected instead of obama ?


43 posted on 11/27/2008 4:56:59 AM PST by americasfuture
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To: TexasCajun

The Democrats are allies of the terrorists. They want to set free the terrorists at Guantanamo.


44 posted on 11/27/2008 4:59:46 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: Indian_Fighter_Kite

The Somali pirate idea makes sense. The Indian Navy sunk one of their pirate ships and killed the pirates. This is payback. What should happen now is Indian warplanes should go in and bomb the pirates’ Somali villages, well-known pirate enclaves, and kill everyone.


45 posted on 11/27/2008 5:01:19 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority ((Barack Obama...stuck on stupid and idle as the world races by him like a bullet train...)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

I too was thinking Somali payback, but there is always a deeper involvement.


46 posted on 11/27/2008 5:03:54 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
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To: spacejunkie01

Nah, we all know that Muslimes are full of p*ss. To all — today Mumbai, tomorrow the city/town next to you. Muslimes cannot tolerate civilisation or order or happiness. They are the vermin lower than rats. To befriend one is to befriend scum


47 posted on 11/27/2008 5:17:02 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: volslover

These terrorists are Pakis — look at the pictures, they aren’t Chechen. They’re from the source of most terrorists in the world — Pakiland, the land with the “Islamic nuclear bomb”


48 posted on 11/27/2008 5:19:20 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: vimto; Prole

And remember that India is 2.3% Christian — Bombay itself will be 5 to 10% Christian, especially in the south near this place.


49 posted on 11/27/2008 5:20:47 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Who could be behind the Mumbai attacks?

I figured it was Methodists - but could be LCMS....

50 posted on 11/27/2008 5:24:33 AM PST by Jim Noble (I have read a fiery gospel, writ in burnished rows of steel)
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To: Carley
Idi Amin WAS Muslime. He died in Saudi Arabia.

Bringing up the others diverts the issue. Fact: Islam preaches hatred through it's Koran that says kill infidels. You can't pass that off by saying the OT says to kill Amalekites. the Koran says to kill infidels at all times, the OT's missive is clearly time-indicative. Islam also makes it a point to say that to die in jihad is holy and the very philosophy of that cult has caused this incident.

No other cult has had such a blood count. The term vermin is harsh, yes, but how else can you describe the followers of such a blood-thirsty philosophy?
51 posted on 11/27/2008 5:32:18 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Cronos

Anyone exploiting, maiming, murdering others is vermin.

Just remembering some other madmen in recent history.

I seem to recall a maumau uprising long ago, remembering too Rwanda.


52 posted on 11/27/2008 6:42:19 AM PST by Carley (Prayers for Sgt. Eddie Ryan)
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To: P-Marlowe

Here a list.
1. Amish
2. Mormons
3. Quakers
4. Salvation Army
5.Masons
But it couldnt be Muslims. That is the religion of peace after all and would even think about killing people without cause. After all, 9-11 was only a plot by the evil and stupid Bush Goverment to seize power and not hold elections for President.


53 posted on 11/27/2008 6:48:25 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Freedom- 07-04-1776-11-06-2008. RIP)
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To: 21twelve
Perhaps there IS a Somali/ Pirate link.

That was my first thought. Now they are saying that western intelligence was expecting a spectacular AQ event. I'd stay vigilant here in the US. The SWAT teams were at Penn Station yesterday.

54 posted on 11/27/2008 6:58:49 AM PST by jersey117
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To: americasfuture
"If the terrorist attacks had taken place before nov 4, do you think Senator McCain could have been elected instead of obama ?"

That is a moot point because back in 2001 this was planned by the Bushitler/Cheny cabal. Halliburton and Blackwater were already building the detention camps. This was in the works before they pulled off taking down the WTC.

55 posted on 11/27/2008 7:04:33 AM PST by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump...for discussion and comment


56 posted on 11/27/2008 7:13:44 AM PST by VOA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

islamists


57 posted on 11/27/2008 7:24:40 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Cronos; All

Dumbed down Americans are brain-washed to believe Islam is the ‘religion of peace’. Didn’t learn a d*mn thing from 9/11.
What will it take for people to realize the Koran (Muslims consider every word in the Koran to be the sacred word of God) instructs them to kill us and take our lands?

80- 90 percent of the Koran is filled with hate, racism, bigotry and unimaginable cruelty.

The terrorists haven’t ‘hijacked Islam’. They are only followed instructions in the manual of murder and mayhem, the Koran.

THE KORAN PROMISES COUNTRIES TO CONQUER AND THE SPOILS THERIN:
Sura 33 “And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden” (33.27) .

MUSLIMS ARE INSTRUCTED IN THE KORAN TO BE STILL UNTIL THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS IN THE COUNTRIES THEY HAVE INVADED:
“Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength” (86.17).

THE KORAN INSTRUCTS MUSLIMS TO FIGHT CHRISTIANS, JEWS AND CONQUER THE WORLD FOR ISLAM:
(The following are only a few of the verses commanding Muslims to fight)

WARFARE IS ORDAINED FOR YOU, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. (2.216)

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

“AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

Fight those among the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and Christians] ... who do not profess the true religion, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (9.29)

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

THE FOUNDER OF CAIR HAS TOLD US PLAINLY OF ISLAM’S plans for AMERICA:

“ISLAM ISN’T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don’t need to look somewhere else.” OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.

Just how d*mn plain do the Muslims have to make it before we ‘get it’??

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58 posted on 11/27/2008 7:30:45 AM PST by patriot08
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To: Carley; CarrotAndStick; MimirsWell; swarthyguy; Arjun; Fred Nerks
Yes, there have been other madmen in recent history, but which other philosophy has provided so many madmen through the centuries? Maumau, Rwanda etc happened once -- have Hutus done that in the past? In contrast I give you:

1. every single terrorist attack this century,

2. Mohammed's massacre of the Jewish Meccans in the 7th century

3. Timur e Lang

4. Muhammad Ghor's slaughter of Hindus in the 10th century,

5. Muhammad Ghazni's attack on India in the middle ages,

6. The Iraqis destroying Assyrian Christian Churches and murdering bishops and priests,

7. Today's attack on a Coptic Church in Egypt,

8. Islamics attacking and raping children in Beslan,

9. Muslims beheading Buddhist priests in Thailand,

10. Muslim beheadings and terrorism in southern Philippines,

11. Muslim terrorists bombing innocent party-goers in Bali,

12. Muslim terrorists bombing trains in London,

13. Muslimes bombing trains in Spain,

14. Muslims bombing trains in Bombay, Bangalore, Jaipur,

15. Muslims killing Christians and forcing conversions in Northern Nigeria,

16. Saudi Arabia arresting people for possesing Bibles or Gitas or even having a Church or Temple,

17. Somali taxi-drivers in Minnesota refusing to take blind people with seeing eye dogs,

18. Muslims attacking Israel in '48, '67, '71,

19. Muslims slaughtering Hindus and Sikhs after partitioning INdia (and still leaving a remnant of Muslims in India),

20. Islam reducing Zoroastrians in Iran, Buddhists in Central Asia, Christians in the Middle East to dhimmitude and forcibly taking their sons and daughters and converting them and putting them as janissaries or into the harem.

I could go on. The root cause is the philosophy of death preached by Islam. Islam is no more than a mish-mash of pre-Islamic worship of the moon god Sin (with his daughters allat, Uzzat and Amat) mixed with misunderstandings from Zoroastrianism, Arianism, Judaism and Nestorian Christianity. Islam's holy book reads like the Mein Kampf -- zero coherence. Islam's philosophy is at root based on wrong data: e.g. for 2640 years the Israelites said Abraham was about to sacrifice Isaac, however Mohammed comes and says no, it was Ishmael (an attempt to link Arabs to Abraham and mish-mash Judaism so that Mohammed could form an Arab league). Another one -- the Koran says that Mary gave birth to Christ under a tree in the desert: completely unlike the description in the bible and suspiciously like the other description of a birth in Revelations: proof that Mohammed mish-mashed bits and pieces to form his cult

There are more including the Hadiths that say the sun revolves around the earth (note: it's in the HAdith so is a tenet of Islamic belief).

The Koran also preaches death to infidels and mandates their killing. No other religion does that. No other madman has belonged to a joint group.


You have tried to divert this by hinting at the IRA and ETA: both were terrorists no doubt, but did they only attack civilians (soft targets)? Did not their movements die down with political solutions? Yes to both. For Islamics, the only solution is for all to convert (or as they say it, to revert) to Islam. nothing else.

you point out Maumau and Rwanda -- those were terrible but were at one point in time and in one location, just like the IRA, ETA, the LTTE etc. Islamic terror is a misnomer, it is Islam at work

Tell me one good thing, one new philosophy that the profit brought? None. Islam is fundamentally false and fundamentally wrong -- logically, factually, morally and philosophically.
59 posted on 11/27/2008 7:41:14 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: P-Marlowe
It’s the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

No, no, no.

Spin-off Mormon polygamist sub-cult.

60 posted on 11/27/2008 7:43:38 AM PST by ninonitti
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