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Implanting Microchips In Sexually Aggressive HIV-Positive People
Emax Health ^ | November 25, 2008

Posted on 11/25/2008 8:44:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

An Indonesian bill that includes a bylaw requiring "sexually aggressive" people living with HIV/AIDS to be implanted with microchips is causing debate between some lawmakers, who argue that the bill is necessary to curb the spread of the virus, and advocates, who say the bylaw is discriminatory and a violation of human rights, the AP/Minneapolis Star Tribune reports.

According to John Manangsang, a lawmaker who supports the bill, authorities would be able to identify, track and punish people living with HIV/AIDS in the country's province of Papua who intentionally spread the virus with a $5,000 fine or up to six months in jail. In Papua, the HIV prevalence is 15 times the national average at 61 cases per 100,000 people (Karmini, AP/Minneapolis Star Tribune, 11/24).

According to Reuters, Manangsang said the microchip is "a simple technology. A signal from the microchip will track their movements and this will be received by monitoring authorities" (Anjani, Reuters, 11/22). According to the Jakarta Post, the microchips would only be implanted in people living with HIV/AIDS who are labeled as "aggressive." Manangsang said, "Aggressive means actively seeking sexual intercourse" (Flassy, Jakarta Post, 11/22). According to the AP/Star Tribune, a committee would be created to establish which HIV-positive people should be implanted with microchips and to monitor their behavior. The technical and practical details of the bill are still being decided by lawmakers. The provincial parliament of Papua has given its full support to the measure, which will be enacted next month if it receives the expected majority vote (AP/Minneapolis Star Tribune, 11/24). Manangsang said the program is "one way to protect healthy people" and that "real action" must be taken "because 47% of (the country's) HIV/AIDS (cases) are in Papua."

Critics of the bill say it is discriminatory toward people living with HIV/AIDS and a violation of human rights, the Post reports. Constan Karma, executive director of the Papua AIDS Commission, said the law "will violate the rights of people living with HIV/AIDS because they will be implanted with microchips." Gunawan -- a liaison officer of the West Papua chapter of Save Papua -- said that people living with the virus "do not always have sex, especially those with AIDS." He also questioned how officials would measure aggressiveness.

Although reported incidents of discrimination against HIV-positive people in Papua have declined, Enita Rouw -- coordinator of the Papua branch of the Indonesian Network of People Infected with HIV -- said that "stigmatization is still there. So please don't use microchips. We are humans, not animals" (Jakarta Post, 11/22). Tahi Ganyang Butarbutar, an advocate in Papua, said that increased funding for sex education and condom promotion would be more effective for addressing the HIV/AIDS epidemic in the region. He also said the people living with the virus "aren't animals; we have to respect their rights" (AP/Minneapolis Star Tribune, 11/24).

Weynand Watari, a lawmaker who supports the bill, said the region's "health situation is extraordinary, so we have to take extraordinary action." According to the AP/Star Tribune, the HIV epidemic in Indonesia is one of the fastest-growing in Asia, with as many as 290,000 cases in the country's population of 235 million. HIV/AIDS in Indonesia primarily is spread through commercial sex work and injection drug use (AP/Minneapolis Star Tribune, 11/24). According to Reuters, the rapid spread of HIV/AIDS in the Papua region primarily is because of inadequate education programs, lack of condoms and partner swapping rituals that take place in the region (Reuters, 11/22).

According to the Post, Manangsang said that people should not concentrate solely on the bylaw but should focus on the entirety of the bill, which requires universal HIV testing "so that preventative measures can be taken early on." He also said that "if we respect the rights of the people living with HIV/AIDS, then we must also respect the rights of healthy people" (Jakarta Post, 11/22).


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aids; communicabledisease; disease; epidemic; homosexualagenda; indonesia; medicine; promiscuity; publichealth; technology
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Didn't we use to quarantine people with communicable diseases?
1 posted on 11/25/2008 8:44:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If a person with a life threatening disease gives it willingly to someone without a life threatening disease, shouldn’t they be charged with murder?


2 posted on 11/25/2008 8:48:50 PM PST by Eddie01 (Telling it like it is since "revolver" was released)
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To: Eddie01

...and subsequently be executed based on premeditation?


3 posted on 11/25/2008 8:49:59 PM PST by Eddie01 (Telling it like it is since "revolver" was released)
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To: Eddie01

Instead of implanting something, they should be taking something off.


4 posted on 11/25/2008 8:50:33 PM PST by Loud Mime (We're not hateful. We respect traditional marriage - which our opponents HATE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

5 posted on 11/25/2008 8:50:54 PM PST by ari-freedom (No more candidates from 2008!)
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To: Loud Mime

oh my gosh, I can just imagine what you mean that they should be taking off.


6 posted on 11/25/2008 8:51:38 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Loud Mime

may not be anything to take off???


7 posted on 11/25/2008 8:53:22 PM PST by Eddie01 (Telling it like it is since "revolver" was released)
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To: Loud Mime

Instead of implanting something, they should be taking something off.

isn’t that the cause?


8 posted on 11/25/2008 8:53:31 PM PST by ari-freedom (No more candidates from 2008!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remove that thingy altogether and you won’t have to implant a microchip.


9 posted on 11/25/2008 8:57:14 PM PST by 353FMG (The sky is not falling, yet.)
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To: ari-freedom
Of course, I'm talking about amputation. Consider this:

the HIV epidemic in Indonesia is one of the fastest-growing in Asia, with as many as 290,000 cases in the country's population of 235 million.

That's a lot of innocent people who became infected.

10 posted on 11/25/2008 8:57:20 PM PST by Loud Mime (We're not hateful. We respect traditional marriage - which our opponents HATE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

However, these are privileged folks. People given a special status, therefore we can’t prosecute them. Perversion has it’s benefits in today’s world. ;-)


11 posted on 11/25/2008 8:58:39 PM PST by doc1019 (Happy Thanksgiving all!)
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oh hmm amputation. well, I guess the sight of lots of nudists may be enough to turn people off


12 posted on 11/25/2008 8:59:27 PM PST by ari-freedom (No more candidates from 2008!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How exactly does this help find people who intentionally spread the virus? I doubt many people who seek sex are saying “I want to give people AIDS,” they just want sex as much as the other person in the equation wants it.

Bottom line, if you choose to have sex, you’re risking STD exposure and if you get AIDS you have just as much blame as the person who gave it to you. Yes, they should have told you they had it, but you should have been more careful. Unless you had no choice in the matter.

The way to protect healthy people is to promote safe sex. Don’t have sex with people you don’t know! Don’t have one-night stands! Understand that birth control isn’t 100% effective, and control your lust. Get married! I have more compassion for people who are in a monogamous relationship and their partner cheated on them and brought it in, but even then the person who cheated is to blame.

Big Brother stepping in, microchipping people, and tracking them sets a dangerous precedent. The end result? The government makes people feel safer about promiscuous sex and gains more power.


13 posted on 11/25/2008 8:59:54 PM PST by lymelady (Pro-life: Because I passed Biology and know when life starts.)
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To play devil's advocate, in this case isn't “sexually aggressive” a government term to be interpreted as such? Kind of like “militia prone”.
14 posted on 11/25/2008 9:02:43 PM PST by maclay (We've been Baracked)
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To: Loud Mime
the HIV epidemic in Indonesia is one of the fastest-growing in Asia, with as many as 290,000 cases in the country's population of 235 million.

That's a lot of innocent people who became infected.

It's also a lot of people who engaged in risky sex.

15 posted on 11/25/2008 9:08:31 PM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s too bad this wasn’t common in the U.S. in 2001. As Bubba left office, we could have all been waving and yelling “Goodbye Mr. Chips!”


16 posted on 11/25/2008 9:08:53 PM PST by Rembrandt
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To: umgud
OK, you have your point....in part. But there are a lot of victims who didn't have a chance.
17 posted on 11/25/2008 9:20:20 PM PST by Loud Mime (We're not hateful. We respect traditional marriage - which our opponents HATE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As far as micro-chipping any citizen, please, let's not go there.

We can just make the homosexuals wear pink triangle badges.

18 posted on 11/25/2008 9:22:30 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: Loud Mime

And that falls under an entirely different realm. If they want to say people who are HIV positive should have harsher penalties for sexual crimes because it’s compounded by intentionally infecting people with diseases, that’s one thing.

If they punish parents for putting children there, that’s good. Great.

But it’s an emotional appeal disconnected from saying anyone who has AIDS and is sexually active should be microchipped.

It’s a band-aid, and one that gives the government far too much control, and far too much of an excuse to not get to the real problem, which is the sexual exploitation of minors. They should stop being lazy and do something about that, if that’s such a huge problem and they have the money to spend tracking people with microchips.


19 posted on 11/25/2008 9:30:20 PM PST by lymelady (Pro-life: Because I passed Biology and know when life starts.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If we had isolated the vector thirty years ago, the gay plague would not have made its way into the general population.
20 posted on 11/25/2008 9:45:24 PM PST by BenLurkin
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