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Dems vs. Dems in new Congress
Politico ^

Posted on 11/25/2008 6:44:52 PM PST by Chet 99

Forget the Republican filibuster and the race to 60. The real fight in the next Congress is Democrats vs. themselves.

With nearly complete control of Washington for the first time in three decades, Democrats are entering a treacherous power zone in which many of their priorities could easily be undone by the geographic, demographic and ideological factions that compete for supremacy within the party.

Unless Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) can whip their caucuses into unity, numerous fault lines will be revealed: Southern Democrats vs. Northern liberals on labor law; California greens vs. Rust Belt Democrats on global warming; socialized medicine adherents vs. go-slow health care reformers; anti-war liberals vs. cautious centrists on national security. And don’t forget the anti-bailout crowd vs. the powerful Michigan Democrats in both chambers when it comes to money for Detroit.

Republicans insist they will fight for their issues when they can, but they also might simply take a front-row seat to see if Democrats implode.

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KEYWORDS: 111th; bho2008; dingell; reid
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To: OneWingedShark

Forget the sarc. I know that you are right on with this!

Questions of ideology and party unity are quickly pushed aside for matters of unnatural order; baby killing has top billing with libs.


21 posted on 11/25/2008 7:58:48 PM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe

>Forget the sarc. I know that you are right on with this!

Then maybe I should craft the ALL NEW [/cynic] tag for such a cynical (even if true) mode of thought.


22 posted on 11/25/2008 8:08:42 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: what's up

I was stating my opinion, thus speaking for nyself.

Besides, it’s the truth.

In my opinion.


23 posted on 11/25/2008 8:23:23 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: Chet 99
One thing has already started and will be abundantly clear to Midwest Democrats in the coming months: West coast and east coast Democrats are much more liberal than Midwest Democrats and they don't give a damn about states like Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana and most of Pennsylvania.

This could develop into a major fault line and become key in upcoming elections. It never did make any sense for union bosses to support environmental lefties hell bent on putting the auto industry out of business.

24 posted on 11/25/2008 8:32:45 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: exit82
Nice parse.

Very Clintonian.

25 posted on 11/25/2008 8:34:26 PM PST by what's up
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To: Chet 99
Obama has been apparently aching for a fight with Pakistan...

If Obama gets involved in Pakistan, he will make the Iraq conflict look like a walk in the park.

26 posted on 11/25/2008 8:35:51 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: Chet 99

It’s like throwing a pork chop into a pen full of starving pit bulls. You don’t have to do anything, they’ll take themselves out. Then the ‘pubbies can stand back watch them eat their own. Of course they should be the ones to provide the pork chop to get things rolling.


27 posted on 11/25/2008 8:37:42 PM PST by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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To: Chet 99
They will eat each other alive in there!! Merry Christmas Everyone! nancy pelosi Pictures, Images and Photos
28 posted on 11/25/2008 8:41:24 PM PST by Lilpug15 (I'm Moving to Alaska...You can Keep THE CHANGE!)
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To: what's up

You took the bait. You just can’t help yourself.

Stop being a post cop.

This is an opinion board. You know that by now.


29 posted on 11/25/2008 8:46:37 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: exit82

The libs have incredible unity. They can vote to steal all our money if they want. But we are left hoping they fight amongst themselves over the spoils. Great.


30 posted on 11/25/2008 8:50:49 PM PST by Luke21
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To: exit82

I understand your frustration, but forming another party would be an insurmountable task. There is no way of drawing enough people together. We have to fix the party we have.


31 posted on 11/25/2008 8:57:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: Luke21

The mettle of the GOP, if it has any left, will be tested shortly.

I don’t know who the fighters will be. Shelby and Sessions. Maybe Cantor. Everyone else will be happy to be invited to the signings, if you catch my drift.

One person who most assuredly won’t be fighting anything is the recent standard bearer.


32 posted on 11/25/2008 8:58:25 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: editor-surveyor

E-S—I hear you.

But fixing the GOP seems equally insurmountable to me.

Yes, the structure exists, but I don’t see a turning to conservatism. McCain and his ilk have killed that goose for good.

The GOP seems happy to be Dem’lite. There’s no will left to fight what the electorate wants.

So, what is the point?

I don’t know if the same thing was said in 1854, when the GOP was formed out of the Whigs. In six years, their nominee was Abe Lincoln.

I just know this GOP is not going to be the vehicle for American loving patriots to help this country survive.

The leadership is not there, except for Palin.

And they are trying to destroy her.


33 posted on 11/25/2008 9:05:42 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: Chet 99

What w need is really a strong Republican Leader in at least on House??


34 posted on 11/25/2008 9:16:26 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: exit82
Bait? LOL. What "bait"?

This is an opinion board

Exactly. And my opinion is that one should speak for oneself...not presume to speak for others.

35 posted on 11/25/2008 9:16:38 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Fine.

It is my opinion that we conservatives no longer have a home in the GOP.

Please find someone else to bother.


36 posted on 11/25/2008 9:19:51 PM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: what's up; exit82
[exit82:] I always do, my friend. [Speaks for himself]

[what's up:] No, when you use the pronoun "we" you are presuming to speak for others as well.

He does speak for others. Many others. But two make his words valid, so add my voice to his.

37 posted on 11/25/2008 9:28:18 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: exit82
It is my opinion that we conservatives no longer have a home in the GOP

That is better phrasing.

It is my opinion that many conservatives (I don't presume to speak for all) still have a home in the GOP.

38 posted on 11/25/2008 9:32:37 PM PST by what's up
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To: roamer_1
He does speak for others. Many others.

Yes, but not all.

39 posted on 11/25/2008 9:34:20 PM PST by what's up
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To: factoryrat
Of course they should be the ones to provide the pork

I know its just an analogy, but we don't need Republicans providing pork.

40 posted on 11/25/2008 9:34:45 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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