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Dad Knew Who Killed JFK
Pajamas Media ^ | November 24 | Arieh O'Sullivan

Posted on 11/24/2008 10:55:04 AM PST by AJKauf

On April 7, 1964, a 26-year-old detective in the New Orleans Police Department skipped up the steps into the Old Civil Courts building in New Orleans and presented himself to the Warren Commission investigating the assassination of President Kennedy.

I’d always known my father had been acquainted with Oswald. They had not only grown up half a block away from each other, but had shared homerooms at school. Sitting alphabetically, my old man Fred sat in front of Oswald for years. O’Sullivan next to Oswald.

Sifting through my Dad’s papers I came upon a letter from Jacqueline Kennedy thanking my father for appearing before the commission. It wasn’t something he spoke of often — just a tidbit of information in a life that went on to greater adventures. ...

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To: Ditto
Duh! Because it was published in the Dallas Morning News the day before.

Your right, definite brainfart. Heil, Obama! Whoops, there's another one.

81 posted on 11/24/2008 12:39:36 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: sarasota

From the sewer grate on the edge of the road, clear path to the river. Perfect crime.


82 posted on 11/24/2008 12:41:18 PM PST by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: F15Eagle
So, if the first shot by Oswald was from the right rear, how is it Jackie Kennedy crawls over the back seat to the rear of the trunk to retrieve Kennedy’s brains which had fallen to the rear of the limo?

This is one of the "half-truths" or "assumptions" that people think are established facts in regard to JFKs assassination. No one knows for a fact that Jackie was "attempting to retrieve parts of JFK’s head". If you watch the Zapruder film, Jackie's face is looking directly into JFK's eyes, her face almost touching his:

Then, JFK's head explodes:

Jackie then panics (as anyone would)

Jackie then heads for the nearest exit:

The car speeds up, and the secret service agent pushes her back into the car for her own safety.

I took these caps from a DVD video called IMAGE OF THE ASSASSINATION that shows the Zapruder film in wide shot, close up and medium shot. If there is a piece of brain or skull on the trunk of the car, it is quite small, and I cannot see it. This DVD shows the Zapruder film clearer than I have ever seen it, and the back of the car looks clean. There certainly is not a great deal of debris on the trunk.

I am not saying it is impossible that she was trying to retrive part of the skull/brain-just that it is not an established fact. Conspiracy nuts start with a theory like this, and then proceed as if it is a proven fact and then attempt to prove something else based on that unproven fact.

Watching the film the first shot seems to come from the fight front, not from the right rear. From the right rear, the scalp piece should have gone into the front seat. But it doesn’t. And Jackie goes immediately over the back seat to grab the disconnected part of Jack’s head. Gruesome, to be sure, but that’s what happens.

If you look closely at the third frame I posted, you will see that JFK's horrific would is consistent with his being shot from behind. The scalp and piece of skull do not go anywhere; they are hanging there, over his face. You can see his ear behind the hanging material. If he were shot from the front, the scalp and skull would be hanging behind his ear.

83 posted on 11/24/2008 12:44:05 PM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Sans-Culotte
The car speeds up, and the secret service agent pushes her back into the car for her own safety.

I've always thought she reached out to try to get the Secret Service agent into the car but it took off so fast he couldn't get in.

85 posted on 11/24/2008 12:47:09 PM PST by McGruff
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To: F15Eagle
Here's a link to frame by frame of Zapruder. Zapruder frame by frame.

I believe Jackie was trying to escape, not retrieve any part of JFK's head.

Now, the hydrostatic effects and the 'jetting' of brain matter will rain down behind the vehicle as it moves forward. This is why the motorcycle officers were 'rained' on by brain tissue. Yes, a majority of matter would fall in the inside of the vehicle following the direction of the shot.

Also, the velocity of the 6.5 Carcano is about 2100 fps at the muzzle and would translate into about 1950-2000 at the distance Oswald was shooting.

That is a lot of energy to expend in a soft target.

86 posted on 11/24/2008 12:47:52 PM PST by Pistolshot ("Democrats don't show respect, they just demand respect " - ClearCase_guy)
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To: AJKauf
“LBJ and The CIA
did away
with JFK”

- 1960s graffiti.

87 posted on 11/24/2008 12:48:29 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: AJKauf
All of the autopsy photos and x-rays support this diagram. A fairly easy shot for LHO.
88 posted on 11/24/2008 12:49:10 PM PST by AmusedBystander (Democrat's new lament: I voted for "hope & change" and all I got is "shuck & jive".)
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90 posted on 11/24/2008 12:55:39 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: F15Eagle
Is that October 16 date a fact or is that a misprint?

Fact!

Oswald was hired at the Book Depository that very day he filled out that application (October 15, 1963). He started to work, as an "order filler" [for the then-minimum wage of $1.25 per hour], the next morning, Wednesday, October 16, 1963, which was the beginning of a new pay period at the Depository.

Source = http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/7014c5ae9f21a7cc

BTW, he lied like hell on his application, but for a minimum wage job in a damn book warehouse, no one even bothered to check. They just wanted a warm body who could lift boxes.


91 posted on 11/24/2008 12:56:02 PM PST by Ditto
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To: NTHockey

I love my Carcano, just picked up new ammo


92 posted on 11/24/2008 12:56:55 PM PST by Ratman83
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To: Frantzie

I started watching Vincent D’Onofrio on Law and Order once it went into syndication.

After a dozen or so episodes, I realized that he was indeed the guy from Full Metal Jacket who kills the Drill Instructor, then himself!


94 posted on 11/24/2008 1:04:21 PM PST by William_The _Mechanic
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To: ctdonath2
Try JFK Reloaded. Very quickly makes it very clear the shot(s) was very doable, eviscerating in minutes most of the common conspiracy theories.

I used to have that "game". For a fairly good shot like Oswald (and contrary to Oliver Stone's "facts", Oswald was quite a decent shot), with a target moving away on a straight line, it is almost a can't miss shot.

Too bad JFK RELOADED was deactivated. I actually paid for the game, but it had to link to the JFK RELOADED site every time one played it. Once they took the site down, the game no longer worked.

96 posted on 11/24/2008 1:04:37 PM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Ditto

About 80% of that job application would be illegal today!


97 posted on 11/24/2008 1:05:04 PM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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To: sarasota

A Marine during the Cold War learning Russian? No, I can’t think of a reasonable explanation for that.

If he did receive any Russian instruction, it didn’t take. His Russian was poor even after he’d lived in the USSR.


99 posted on 11/24/2008 1:07:34 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: weegee
Bugliosi is a strange individual too. He concocted an elaborate conspiracy theory about Charles Manson and the Beatles to pin a “murder” charge on Charlie who did not commit the murders himself.

Manson planned and ordered the murders. That's not elaborate.

100 posted on 11/24/2008 1:10:38 PM PST by ReignOfError
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