Dad Knew Who Killed JFK

On April 7, 1964, a 26-year-old detective in the New Orleans Police Department skipped up the steps into the Old Civil Courts building in New Orleans and presented himself to the Warren Commission investigating the assassination of President Kennedy.

I’d always known my father had been acquainted with Oswald. They had not only grown up half a block away from each other, but had shared homerooms at school. Sitting alphabetically, my old man Fred sat in front of Oswald for years. O’Sullivan next to Oswald.

Sifting through my Dad’s papers I came upon a letter from Jacqueline Kennedy thanking my father for appearing before the commission. It wasn’t something he spoke of often — just a tidbit of information in a life that went on to greater adventures. ...

Oh, so some comedians have “debunked” what was proven by an MD with a PhD in physics? If you believe that, you are about as clueless as the people who think they are getting the straight news from The Daily Show.

One more time for the record:

The third annual ASK conference, a major conference on the JFK assassination, was held near Dealey Plaza in Dallas from November 18-21, 1993. Dr. David Mantik, M.D., Ph.D. (physics) of the Peter A. Lake, M.D., Center in Rancho Mirage, California, proved conclusively by optical densitometry analysis that the JFK autopsy X-rays at the National Archives are phony composites. He also showed that a bullet could not have possibly traversed Kennedy’s neck, as the Warren Commission said it did, without also causing major damage to the cervical spine, which it did not. Mantik also found a clear trace of fragments from a second bullet to the brain. As if that weren’t enough, he also found an obvious metal object in the skull X-ray that matched the 6.5 mm bullet Oswald supposedly used, but which the autopsy pathologists swore under oath to be unaware of. Mantik’s five and seven year old children had no trouble finding the bullet fragment, yet three pathologists supposedly didn’t notice it in the X-rays! It was obviously added later to the X-ray in a pathetic attempt to frame Oswald. Mantik’s results, along with many other remarkable revelations, are presented in [Fetzer].

Many other researchers have also shown that the Warren Report is a travesty and that the Report of the HSCA is not much better. Yet dozens of top experts in several fields have received less combined coverage than lawyer and media wonderboy Gerald Posner.

http://RussP.us/case.htm

Don’t put words in my mouth.

I asked you your opinions about 9/11, RFK, and MLK, very simple question, all the extrapolation is yours.

I’m not confused.

Oswalds prints found on the rifle scope and on the boxes in the snipers nest, fact.

Ballistics showed the bullet that hit JFK and Connally came from Oswald’s rifle at the school book depository, fact.

Fiber evidence from the rifle came from Oswalds, shirt, fact.

Oswald was the ONLY employee missing from the TSBD after the shooting, fact.

Witnesses saw a rifle in the 6th floor of the TSBD, that’s why they did the head count on the TSBD, fact. What an amazing, unfortunate coincidence for the innocent Oswald that he was the only employee missing, his fingerprints at the scene and on the scope of the rifle, and that ballistics proved the recovered bullet came from Oswald’s rifle.

Lee Harvey Oswald is either the unluckiest person on the planet, or he was a whack job who tried to kill General Walker, then killed JFK and Officer Tippett.

Have you watched the documentary I posted in post 75, or the other videos and recreations?

Please try and dispute me.

Did you read the excerpt from my article that I posted several times now? That is conclusive forensic evidence that resolves the ambiguities in this case and trumps everything you wrote. If you can’t understand that, you are either not interested in the truth or not qualified to be on a jury.

OK, let’s have one more go at it:

http://RussP.us/case.htm

The one thing (of many) that sticks in my craw was how did Oswald get off three shots in the alloted time - at a moving target - with THAT rifle. The Carcano, as I recall, was notorious for jamming/not locking.

Why would Oswald put his faith in the Carcano, when he was trained on the infinitely better M-1 Garand? Even FBI agents could not make that shot on the first try with the Carcano! And they were much better shots than Oswald.

JFK’s assassination was a defining moment in my childhood and I have been hopeful ever since that the truth would eventually filter out. Although I think Oswald was involved, I no longer think he was alone. The other day I heard for the first time a recording purporting to be the gunshots which I believe was captured by a motorcycle cop’s open microphone. Hearing that was a sudden revelation to me. Three evenly timed shots rang out within about 2 seconds, allegedly from an Italian Carcano bolt-action rifle. That seems highly implausible to me — I own a Carcano and have shot a variety of bolt-action rifles for 35 years. It takes precious time to move your hand from the trigger to the bolt handle, cycle the bolt up, back, forward, and down again, reposition your finger on the trigger, realign the sights after recoil, and squeeze the trigger, while tracking a moving target. Oswald barely qualified on a semi-automatic Garand M1 in the military — a bolt-action rifle is slower to shoot. I don’t know how many empty brass Carcano shells were recovered in the book repository, but any discrepancies could have been “fixed”.

Where is you disputation about what I posted about Oswald?

What is a phony composite? A copy of the x-ray?, I need you to elaborate.

About it hitting his spine, first of all are they saying it came from behind from the 6th floor on that trajectory? What bullet path are they basing that on?

Also, you see the way Kennedy’s unnaturally lifts his arms with his elbows out and equal to or higher than his hands? I saw a doctor say that that very odd reaction IS a neurological reaction to hitting something sensitive. Think about the way you grab your throat, nothing like what Kennedy did his fists are clenched and his elbows high, etc. as I described.

They wouldn’t be the only doctored people making wild claims, and by the way Cyril Wecht is a POS, publicity whore who made his bones on JFK and also accused John Ramsey of raping Jon Benet, he’s despicable.

By saying many other researchers have shown the Warren Report as a “travesty”, means NOTHING. Many researchers have shown conspiracy theorists to be 100% wrong on many things.

I can also say that many researchers have also proven that Oswald acted alone, saying a bunch of conspiracy profiteers have found flaw with the Warren Report doesn’t make them right, especially how they have been consistently debunked by science and forensics.

You’re claiming a conspiracy regarding the autopsy, who’s involved?

Please answer my factual statements about Oswald earlier and dispute them if you can.

Oswald qualified in USMC basic training as 'Sharpshooter' with a score of 216.

Graduated Parris Island July 15, 1964 ... approximately 8 months after JFK's assassination in Dallas. Memories were fresh back in those days ... and Oswald shot marksman. I shot sharpshooter at PI and expert 15 months later at Camp Lejeune, NC. Rifle qualification was supposed to be a annual event, but commitments across the Corps made scheduling difficult.

"... Graduated Parris Island July 15, 1964 ... approximately 8 months after JFK's assassination in Dallas. Memories were fresh back in those days ... and Oswald shot marksman."

Semper Fi, but Lee Harvey Oswald shot Sharpshooter in USMC basic training:

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"Warren Commission Report, Chapter 4: The Assassin, Oswald's Marine Training."

In accordance with standard Marine procedures, Oswald received extensive training in marksmanship.773

During the first week of an intensive 8-week training period he received instruction in sighting, aiming, and manipulation of the trigger.774

He went through a series of exercises called dry firing where he assumed all positions which would later be used in the qualification course.775

After familiarization with live ammunition in the .22 rifle and .22 pistol, Oswald, like all Marine recruits, received training on the rifle range at distances up to 500 yards, firing 50 rounds each day for five days.776

Following that training, Oswald was tested in December of 1956, and obtained a score of 212, which was 2 points above the minimum for qualifications as a "sharpshooter" in a scale of marksman--sharpshooter--expert.

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That information is straight from his service jacket as collected by Federal investigators working for the Warren Commission.

Penn & Teller also try and get to the truth of things that's why their show is called "Bullsh!t".

Lessee, am I gonna take what I see offered up from two magicians at face value? Prolly not.

For example, how many melons did they sacrifice before they got the shot they wanted?

P & T have a "homophilic" bias among other things. I quit watching their (very entertaining, actually) Bullsh!t after they trashed the Boy Scouts. It was disgusting.

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I suggest you get the book referenced in my article and read the Mantik section yourself. It will answer your questions. If you could see a recording of Mantik giving his presentation at the ASK 93 conference, you would be impressed, but that is probably hard to find.

Whether Oswald was a shooter or just a patsy is a secondary issue. The main issue is whether he acted alone or not, and I believe that Mantik and others have proven conclusively that he did not. But that just corroborates the fishiness of this whole case from start to finish.

I am a conservative, and I am bothered that many conservatives seem to view this case through a political lense. Truth does not depend on politics, and people who think it does are not really interested in the truth. I don’t really care about the political implications of this case, which is ancient history anyway. I am just fascinated by it. Let the chips fall where they may.

Three evenly timed shots rang out within about 2 seconds, allegedly from an Italian Carcano bolt-action rifle. That seems highly implausible to me ? I own a Carcano and have shot a variety of bolt-action rifles for 35 years. It takes precious time to move your hand from the trigger to the bolt handle, cycle the bolt up, back, forward, and down again, reposition your finger on the trigger, realign the sights after recoil, and squeeze the trigger, while tracking a moving target.

If Oswald could do this how could he have possibly missed hitting General Walker? You'd think that would have been a close-range sniper shot at a still target.

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I didn’t like the boy scouts episode either, a couple of others I didn’t like too.

If you’re suggesting that they’re not displaying physics and had to shoot multiple melons you’re delusional. They can shoot 1000 melons, PHYSICS DON’T CHANGE.

Let’s take your “argument” at face value and that they had to shoot 100 melons, it proves that what Kennedy’s head did was possible from a rear shot, which conspiracy quacks claim DOESN’T happen.

Your JFK page is filled with sensationalist, demented hogwash aimed almost exclusively at attacking Gerald Posner and promoting fringe conspiracy theories attributed to a laundry list of frauds, fruitcakes and paranoid dipsticks. There's nothing new there, nothing origional and imho, nothing truthful or remotely connected to reality. Fine, someone has to live in Never Never Land. Have fun.

But, stop the name calling of fellow FReepers, it simply makes you look more foolish than your entire compilation of kook theories. You are pushing the limit of acceptable web decorum.
And really ... Deep Purple produced, "the greatest live rock album ever recorded"? C'mon, that is " a but (SIC) much". (Hint: get a proof reader Mr. Paielli.)

For a narcissist like you that quotes himself on his Great Quotes page beside the words of Voltaire, Orwell and Thomas Jefferson, let me humbly submit one of my own for your consideration:

"'Subjects' and 'Predicates' are the very nomenclature of human speech, making sentences and paragraphs; at least, the unfortunate result most of us produce and at most - a bizarre example of however far this theory of constructing language can drift from practice. I cannot help how that makes anyone feel or how many times you need to reread that before your head begins to hurt. I too, am sure that my head will eventually explode trying to decipher what is being said on the Internet and I'm on a quest to take as many of you with me as possible." - Drumbo Thunder

If you would bother to read instead of just shooting your mouth off you would know that the bullet deflected off of the window frame. Also if you knew anything about the assassination you would know this claim from the other poster is totally false.

The problem is you really don’t know a lot about the JFK killing, you, like most others can only parrot conspiracy crap that has been debunked many times.

I asked simple questions, why won’t YOU answer them?? You have a website and all and are an “expert”.

I don’t look at this through a political lense, I look at it through a logical, rational, scientifically provable most likely scenario.

I’m greatly disappointed in people who still don’t know that Jim Marrs is a total quack.

You’re fascinated by the conspiracy theories, not getting to the truth, you ignore all the evidence against Oswald.

Can you dispute the facts I posted about Oswald??????????

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