Some of them do get it...
Posted on 11/23/2008 4:51:44 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
NEW DELHI: The repeated Predator air strikes in Pakistan's tribal areas are beginning to show results, say Indian security officials closely following the operations.
The US strikes "have succeeded in cracking the networking capabilities of al-Qaida", said sources here. But since Pakistan's ISI is the primary sponsor of both al-Qaida and Taliban, India's concerns are that the ISI could "re-deploy" these jihadi fighters from the FATA areas into the Kashmir zone or in other parts of India for surgical suicide strikes.
In Washington last week, CIA director Michael Hayden detailed the US strategy against al-Qaida in Pakistan. "It is no overstatement to say that al-Qaida 's base in Pakistan is the single most important factor today in the group's resilience and its ability to threaten the west," he said.
The air strikes have proved to be a kind of "disruptive" activity in the region, that keeps the Taliban-al-Qaida guessing. The very uncertainty of the strikes mean that Taliban are now more concerned about personal survival than about operations. This is leading to a serious war of attrition, which is also disrupting their networking capabilities.
Indian sources said the aggressive strikes have also disrupted intra-group coordination -- which has always remained a strong point of the al-Qaida. The additional reason for this has also been the diplomatic push on countries like Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Philippines et al to deal with their respective Islamic groups.
Hayden clarified what most intelligence operatives have known anyway, and Pakistan has fudged for years -- the merger of al-Qaida and Pakistan Taliban. So all efforts to "reconcile" with the Taliban in Afghanistan, said sources, was essentially going to become a rehabilitation of the al-Qaida as well.
As Hayden said, "This merging of al-Qaida and Pashtun extremism or Pashtun separatism has been building for a while. All that activity is enabled by... Al-Qaida's ties to local tribes. Al-Qaida has developed a close, co-dependent relationship with Pashtun extremists and separatist groups. Al-Qaida -- foreigners in a land that's long been suspicious of foreigners -- has been able to curry favour with locals by supporting their causes, training their fighters, funding their operations... increasingly, ties to the tribes are being made a bit more permanent through inter-marriage."
India has, by and large, been insulated from al-Qaida, though security analyst Bruce Reidel has written that the 2001 Parliament attack was the first instance of al-Qaida's footprints in India. Indian security officials say that with increasing pressure on al-Qaida and Taliban from the west, they might turn to limited surgical operations even in third countries, for instance in countries like Singapore, Malaysia and India.
These could be carried out by small, motivated cells on suicide missions, the objective being to keep the al-Qaida flag flying and build another generation of motivated cadres.
Closer home, the redeployment of hardcore Taliban and al-Qaida elements looking for new pastures could be used by the ISI once again in the Kashmir zone or other targets inside India. Worse, they could attack Indian interests in third countries as was done during the embassy bombing in Kabul.
Centuries of fighting with Muslims, yet India still does not get it.
Get what?
Some of them do get it...
That catering to Muslims does not work and they need to go into all the Mosques there to hear what is being preached.
An average Indian has a much better idea about whats preached inside a mosque then even the US intelligence. India has been in this war for last thousand years. Americans are the newbies.
That is my point India has been at this for centuries and they do not have control of it.
If you are offended by my comments I do not know what to tell you.
“That is my point India has been at this for centuries and they do not have control of it.”
If what you are saying had been true India would have ended up as an Islamic country by now. I suggest you read something on Indian history and current politics. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Ummm....they let an Islamic country be created. It is called Pakistan and they still cater to Muslims.
http://pseudosecularism.blogspot.com/2006/01/indian-muslims-already-have-25.html
Slowly they are losing more of their country.
Muslims get money from Hindu temple funds and are also allowed to practice their own Sharia (Islamic) laws for marriage, divorce, family inheritance and other customs. Civil laws are not uniformly applied to Muslims and their rights, real or imaginary, traditional or just made up, are generously safeguarded. They are permitted practices even if some of them are in direct conflict with India’s laws on divorce, maintenance money after divorce, and other social, religious and cultural practices.
India probably has more frequent Islamic attacks than any other country and you are the only person from there that I have met online that says that the governmet there is handled this issue. How many of 10’s of millions of Hindus have been killed by Islamists?
“Slowly they are losing more of their country.”
Really? What part of the county did India lose since independence?
“Muslims get money from Hindu temple funds “
Which Hindu temple fund?
“are also allowed to practice their own Sharia (Islamic) laws for marriage, divorce, family inheritance and other customs.”
That has not changed since the time of the British just like scores of other Indian laws.
“India probably has more frequent Islamic attacks than any other country “
That's the result of having the second largest Islamic population. Not always do those attacks go unchallenged. Hint: Gujarat.
“and you are the only person from there “
On a side note since you were too quick to get personal...... I am not from “there”.
“How many of 10’s of millions of Hindus have been killed by Islamists?”
How many Jews have been killed at the hands of Nazis and Muslims? So you are saying the Jews have lost?
Sensitive aren’t we? I thought you were from there, but it was OK when you said the average Indian knows more than US intelligence. Do not hand it out if you cannot take it back.
The article and plenty of others that I have read, besides all the other people I have spoken to tell me the same. That Muslims are slowly dominating more and more of the country.
Just like everywhere else.
Obviously you did not notice that the Nazis are not killing Jews anymore.
It does not matter how long it has been going on, they are still praticing their own laws and reserving jobs for them. Catering to Muslims does not work, obviously the government there has not figured that out yet.
How Islam Came To India And Why Now It Needs To Go From India - 1,2,3,4
You know what they say when you assume right?
“OK when you said the average Indian knows more than US intelligence.”
I wasn't handing it out. In case you didn't understand my argument let me put it this way. Unlike a US intelligence officer an average Indian does not need a translator to figure what the Imam is yelling from the loud speaker.....
Does that sound easier for you now?
“The article and plenty of others that I have read, besides all the other people I have spoken to tell me the same. That Muslims are slowly dominating more and more of the country.”
What articles? Who have you spoken to? Try to come up with some substance to your argument not plain hearsay.
“Obviously you did not notice that the Nazis are not killing Jews anymore.”
The Nazis... yes, not the Muslims (did YOU notice that). Although you totally missed my point. Just because over history some one has killed millions of your people does not mean you have lost unless you consider the war as over and accepted defeat. I don't think India has done that.
“Catering to Muslims does not work, obviously the government there has not figured that out yet.”
I don't know any place where the government has it all figured out, unless you are talking about our next government that's gonna directly work for the enemy camp. Luckily Indian people have a lot more sense then their government.....which was my original point.
There is no reason for the constant unnecessary attitude.
You said,
The Nazis... yes, not the Muslims (did YOU notice that).
YOU might want to read what my threads are about.
What is coming from loudspeakers are the calls to prayers, not the sermons.
Well then lets leave it at this. Citizens all over the world have a lot more sense than their governments. As more and more people are speaking out against Islam.
Happy Thanksgiving!!
My friend from India sent me this.
1. muslims form 13.4% of the population of India, or 154 million in number. Like in a nuclear reaction, any percentage over 5% can be construed to have achieved criticality, and out of control by the native populace (especially in a democracy).
2. The government waxes eloquent about how India is indivisible, single entity all the way from kashmir to kanyakumari (North and South borders), but in kashmir, to this day - only native kashmiris can own and purchase lands and no one else! “kashmiris” include those folks who are currently living in pakistan! This has somehow been incorporated into the Indian Constitution! (As you know kashmir is almost entirely muslim). Imagine a scenario where a citizen of the U.S cannot own land in Florida, except those whose ancestors from 4 generations were from Florida, or citizens of Cuba!
3. Many States in India actually have muslim quotas in education, employment etc., including the defense services as part of the Indian affirmative action.
4. muslims in India can legally marry upto 4 wives at any given time. Should a Hindu, Christian etc., do so he will be charged with polygamy and thrown behind bars. This is so blatant that even people of other faiths when faced with charges of polygamy declare the shahada and become muslims!
5. Every muslim who wants to visit his terror nucleus, aka mecca, is actually paid a heavy subsidy by the government, irrespective of the muslim’s need for such subsidy. Let a Christian, Sikh or Hindu try for such subsidy to visit the Holy Land, or the Vatican etc., There is no provision.
6. There was a terrorist attack on the Indian Parliament, and a pakistani thug - Afzal Guru was caught, charged, tried and sentenced to execution. The Supreme Court has affirmed his sentence. Yet he continues to be lodged and feted in comfort, during the watch of various adminstrations - for fear that executing this foreigner who caused so many deaths would alienate the sentiments of muslims (sounds familiar?).
7. Even so called Hindu ‘fundamentalist’ parties like the BJP continues to pander to the muslims because they are known to vote as a block, and thus wield immense clout.
I can go on and on. Please let me know if this suffices. India is a test case for the spectrum called muslim takeover continuum of democratic nations. India is at an advanced stage. If we do not learn from this, we can be sure that our nations are being primed to becoming officially declared dhimmi followed by darulislam.
Would you like to help me with this ping list???
Kurukshetra War - Kali Yuga ping...
To be added to or removed from this ping list, please FReepmail Sir Francis Dashwood.
ALSO, feel free to use this ping list yourself. Copy and paste this HTML code to get the above image…
<p align = center><font size = 6><font color = red><b> Kurukshetra War - Kali Yuga ping...</font></font></b>
<p align = center><img src = "http://desifly.com/files/pictures/2008/02/krishna_arjuna_800x600.jpg" height = 300 width = 400>
<p align = center><font color = blue><b>To be added to or removed from this ping list, please FReepmail <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~sirfrancisdashwood/">Sir Francis Dashwood</a>.
Members: little jeremiah; Indian_Fighter_Kite; Knitting A Conundrum; Hari prasad; MimirsWell; happinesswithoutpeace; warsaw44; Sir Francis Dashwood
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.