Rise of the Stasi in the UK

[Lilith Incubus]

12 representatives of a legal political party in England were arrested on trumped up English terrorist laws.

They were distributing leaflets for the British National Party in Liverpool city center, and were consequently detained under recent laws presiding within the umbrella of 'promoting racial hatred'.

The story can be found on the BNP website, and the leaflet in question which had apparently already been thoroughly vetted from an English legal standpoint, can be downloaded at:

The BNP Website (http://www.bnp.org.uk/thumbs/Racism_Cuts_Both_Ways.pdf)

Following the illegal distribution of a BNP members list recently, the BNP web site was ranked #1 political website in the world, even beating Obama's site apparently,

See Here (http://bnp.org.uk/2008/11/bnp-web-site-breaks-new-ranking-record-world’s-most-popular-political-party-page/)

And finally, you're probably asking about the relevance of this being on FR, well following the recent growth of popularity of this right wing party which most enlightened people in England say is aligned to conventional Conservatism, and the last few days' of victimisation of them, there are now calls by leaders to adopt a ban on BNP members being employed in any public sector jobs.
For example, Chris Keates, the general secretary of the National Association of Schoolmasters Union of Women teachers, said: "Those who declare their affiliation to the BNP should not be allowed to work in the teaching profession or in public services."

This type of ban on 'Political Choice' is of course, under (current) English and European law, illegal outside of the Police force and a couple of other positions.

The reason I'm posting this on here, is that the US has historically been immune to this kind of Eurofascism, but with the election of Obama and his EU aligned views on many issues, this sort of communism is right there waiting in the wings for the US.

You guys need to identify this as and when it happens, use their own liberal mechanisms to fight it on every level,

[SolidWood]

I can’t stand the fascist thugs and creeps from the BNP, but this is a dangerous precedent for other groups to be.

[buccaneer81]

BNP ping.

[reg45]

This is what happens when you don't have the protection of The First Amendment.

[mrsmel]

Yes, considering that leftist extremists have easily made their way into those professions, and no one has called for a ban on their presence. In fact, they pretty much run academia and the media-any place of general influence-and the same is true in the US. Look at Ward Churchill, William Ayres, and others, they’re not only merely accepted, they’re honored and defended.

[Frantzie]

my guess is the BNP would be possibly the only political party in the UK to stand up to sharia and a pogrom to force Jews out of the UK engineered the the religion of peace. The Tories might say something about the pogrom but all 3 major “parties” have been silent about sharia in the UK. Rounding up BNP members is just like the USSR or East Germany. Actually East Germany is less totalitaian than today’s PC UK.

[dljordan]

“I can’t stand the fascist thugs and creeps from the BNP, but this is a dangerous precedent for other groups to be.”

Thugs and creeps? For what, standing up for themselves like every other special interest group?

[Bon mots]

This is what happens when you don't have the protection of The First Amendment.

Obama is already whining about all the 'mistakes' and 'oversights' in the Constitution.

Just like he don't need no stinkin' Birth Certificate, our future Fuehrer don't need no stinkin' Constitution.

Coming soon to America.
Just wait and see.

[Lilith Incubus]

I can’t stand the fascist thugs and creeps from the BNP, but this is a dangerous precedent for other groups to be.

It is a dangerous precedent, last month the English Govt also used the same umbrella 'Terrorist' legislation to seize money from the Icelandic banks operating in the UK, in collateral for money invested by English investments in the Icelandic banking system that were looking precarious.

The scary thing is that the English Govt is actually getting away with this relatively unscathed, and at the same time forging ever stronger links with ultra left political figures around the World, notably Obama being one of them.

A 'New World Order' in the making, an order that makes it's own rules, decisions, laws, and enforces them undemocratically on citizens howsoever it wishes.

That's Communism right there!

[SolidWood]

The BNP would purge the Jews on their own terms. They are a sorry bunch of lunatics, racists, holocaust-deniers and fascists and there is little point in trying to lionize or whitewash them. Obviously they try to appear more "middle" than in the past... to no avail. If they are the "only party" left, it's a sad state for Britain. Europeans seem to have a hard time to realize that the response to a totalitarian threat (Communism, Islamism) is not another totalitarian system. You don't fight the Devil with the Beelzebub. Freedom and Individual Rights is the answer.

As far as I am concerned the BNP and ilk can go to hell, and take the Communist and Islamist thugs with them.

[SolidWood]

Thugs and creeps

Yes thugs and creeps... if not worse. I know enough about the BNP and other european excuses for "right wing" to know what they are. Pardon me if I value the American principles of Freedom and Human Rights and haven't sympathy left for BNP-types. The BNP are neo-Nazi populist thugs and thus another shade of the dark side which the Communists and Islamists belong to.

[Frantzie]

The “alternatives” are the sharia panderers in NuLab, Lib Dumbs and Tories. I had some hope for Boris until he started slobbering over how wonderful Obama is. The UK is a police state for going after BNP members in this manner.

[SolidWood]

If there are no alternatives left, Britain is a lost cause... unless they can get their act together late in game and get someone like Churchill or Thatcher again. They need Churchills and Thatchers. Not Chamberlains (PC-crowd) and Mosleys (BNP and likes).

[Frantzie]

Sadly we may be heading down the same path.

[SolidWood]

Yes. That’s why I’ll put my zealotry for Liberty abroad on the backburner. Freedom has to regained in America first.

[Lilith Incubus]

If there are no alternatives left, Britain is a lost cause

I think maybe Britain is a lost cause, I think that there are no political movements there who have the capacity to address the new fundamental makeup of the Country and give policy to hold up British values, together with making peace with the new cultures there.

Unfortunately, that's the issue, it's either lost, or it needs some dramatic influence from a right wing party to re balance what's been sold down the river, and that means a movement like the BNP. Society is under incredible duress in England, something is going to break, and one movement is going to prevail.

The Conservatives in England are left of center Liberal moderates, and nothing more, no inclination of right, or even centre policy.

David Cameron, Conservative Party Leader - "Not for the first time, I found myself thinking that it is mainstream Britain which needs to integrate more with the British Asian way of life, not the other way around"

To digress, are the BNP the saviors of Democracy, or the trojan horse of Nazi'ism?

I genuinely hope not, but US Conservatives may start to understand the thinking behind the BNP mindset, after a few years of Obama.
The islamification of Europe has been progressive over a few decades, and has spanned traditional political barriers relatively easily.

What sort of precedence does that set for the US, with a neo-islamic president taking office?
We could see the absolute transformation, or "CHANGE" of the US into an EU'esque multicultural model in maybe just one or two presidential terms.

This Communist movement is Global, it's coming to the US starting with cooperative oversight on financial institutions.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

You don't fight the Devil with the Beelzebub. Freedom and Individual Rights is the answer.

Individual rights like free speech???

If you think arresting people for handing out pamplets is the answer, you are the fascist.

[manc]

really
do you know them?
No
Have they denied the holocaust , no they have not, you seem to get confused between combat 18 and BNP.
Have you read their manifesto?
I bet no

the only bullies and thugs here are the left wing loons who are trying to close down a lawful political party.

For instance I have heard the usual left wing name calling loons say they go around on their marches, well guess what the BNP do no marches that is the NF.
never let the facts get in the way of the truth for the left wing.

As for racist , well I am not all white but they told me that I was more than welcome to join them and not only that they have Jews and Indians in their party.
Di you know that too>
No I bet not

course the usual name calling the left wing and the left media does will still go on and on.

The BNP are a threat to the 3 party establishment and the media have waged outright war against them for many years and the sheep who know nothing and are too lazy to do their own research will believe the likes of the BBC.

[manc]

you’re getting confused again
Mosley was NF
BNP was not around in the 30’s

[manc]

you’re getting confused again
Mosley was NF
BNP was not around in the 30’s
The only party now who will stop sharia law, is certainly not the conservative party, labour or the liberal dems

They have over the 40 years ruined Britain and I lived though it all.

out of curiosity are you actually British or lived in the UK so form this opinion.

I know many people who have voted BNP and from all walks of life.

They are getting more and more powerful and getting more votes legally I might add and the media, the sheep who believe the media, the 3 big parties and the left are worried and this is why they tried to close down the BNP a couple of years ago but are not allowed as it is a lawful legal party who do get votes and who do fight for the UK and the people of the UK