Ok, but what bugs me, it's the same old crap.
My father pointed out (he was associated w/R & D), that most of the "R & D" money since the 1950's was spent researching how cheaply stuff could be made and still roll, and even how to make things wear out in a fashion that would annoy consumers into buying yet another widgit.
In terms of greening your scene, wouldn't it have been better to build a good one in the first place?
As a kid one of the employees of the R & D dept. had a "test" 1957 Buick that never wore out and always looked new decades later.
Seeing that beauty every day and how proud the owner was of it left a strong impression on me.
I hope it's still in the family, I don't know, we moved away from there.
But, wouldn't that be something, if you could pass down a beautiful functional machine to your children.
Imagine all the other things we could do instead of being busy all the time manufacturing crap to replace the crap we just made a few years ago that wore out?
I know it's not the point of this thread, but maybe it's time to think about this.
Getting out of Michigan is a good thing. The state is a malaria infested swamp with all kinds of diseases that will kill business. Americans whining about saving jobs in Michigan are missing the point. The American jobs in Michigan are the problem.