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Recount, Day 3: Coleman hanging on to thin lead (down to 120 votes, ballots have gone 'missing')
Star Tribune ^

Posted on 11/21/2008 7:18:53 PM PST by Chet 99

The wear and tear of the state’s U.S. Senate recount began to show Friday, as some counties reported missing ballots and a rising number of challenged ballots frayed nerves among counters and monitors alike.

As of Friday night, Republican Sen. Norm Coleman was hanging on to his whisker-thin lead over Democrat Al Franken. With 64 percent of the 2.9 million ballots recounted, Coleman was ahead by 120 votes, down from 136 at the end of Thursday and from the unofficial lead of 215 signed off on Tuesday by the state Canvassing Board.

The figures represent a compilation of recount data reported to the secretary of state and gathered by the Star Tribune.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


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To: tophat9000

It is a sad day when Americans are so stupid they’d actually vote for a moron like Franken-—it shouldn’t even be close, but face it, half the country was duped. I just pray we can survive this without too much more damage. God help us!


21 posted on 11/21/2008 7:56:59 PM PST by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: erik22lax

don’t move — Franken is a contemptible jackal but that does not distinguish him from dozens of other US Senators.

In a body in which Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, John Kerry, et al are considered the most distinguished leaders, the addition of Al Franken can hardly dilute the talent pool


22 posted on 11/21/2008 7:57:43 PM PST by Enchante (Thanks, Mediascum, you "elected" your candidate and now the country will pay....)
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To: mkcc30
-- The 3 ringed circus that is to soon be our federal government ... --

"Soon to be?" You should watch more C-SPAN. Congress has been a 3-ring circus for years. Having Franken in there might be an improvement as far as entertainment value goes. Congress is useless anyway, it punts hot issues to administrative agencies or the Courts, and pretty much has its legislation written for it by the administrative agencies and the administration. Congressmen are to lawmaking what news-readers are to journalism ... nothing more than the faces that read the scripts put in front of them.

23 posted on 11/21/2008 8:00:05 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: ElkGroveDan

“”When it’s all over Franken will be ahead by something like 550 votes.””

Wow, I can’t believe the climate/malaise on the board tonight! While your prophecy may come true (I pray it won’t) - we all know Coleman won this election fair and square, originally. If Franken ends up as the winner, it will be an absolute Travesty.


24 posted on 11/21/2008 8:09:05 PM PST by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: pissant

I am ashamed of my party after this debacle. It seems he is left out on his own. Saxby down in Georgia is hanging on by a thread too and Obama is going to town for Jim Martin. And with McConnell saying he was looking forward to President Bush leaving office...

Why do I feel so alone? I mean I know you guys are here, but I really feel like we are just wagging in the wind.


25 posted on 11/21/2008 8:09:14 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Chet 99

LOL, it’s amazing how the rats can steal an election so brazenly (EVERY adjustment favors the rat) and the worthless FBI just sits around and plays with itself. America is dead and gone.


26 posted on 11/21/2008 8:11:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: randita

“”I don’t think Franken will catch up.””

I’ve seen a lot of word today saying the same, that Coleman is the winner, even though it’s by a really slim margin. But I think they also said Franken et al will demand ANOTHER recount.


27 posted on 11/21/2008 8:19:36 PM PST by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: rudman
you idiot losers and whiners......you couldn't be counted on in a tough situation if you 're life depended on it.....

its too bad the conservative "side" has such a "woe is me" mentality.......

some of you should be ashamed that you're such wuzzies....

28 posted on 11/21/2008 8:23:04 PM PST by cherry
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To: LegalEagle61
Well one little bit of good new, Tom McClintock of California (remember him) ran for congress and has been in a very tight recount.. it looks like he going to win
29 posted on 11/21/2008 8:28:02 PM PST by tophat9000 ( Note: To Obama's Thugocracys... We are all " joe the plumber "...)
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To: llandres
Didn't some third party independent guy get enough votes to make this close? Anyway, what is amazing is that if the MN Republicans had dragged another 1000 or so to the polls that day who had not voted, the balance in the Senate and the future of our security through check and balance would not be in jeopardy. 1000, or maybe even 200. Amazing. When we see that mushroom cloud someday over the Obama regime, we can look back and just shake our heads...before they fall off from the nuclear wind that is
30 posted on 11/21/2008 8:30:24 PM PST by Greek
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To: cherry

Missing ballots? Nationwide that amounts to 4,000,000 less Republican voters this election cycle, than in 2004. Par for the course.


31 posted on 11/21/2008 8:33:51 PM PST by quickquiver (No, means N O.)
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To: randita

I heard someone on H&C on Fox tonight say that Minneapolis had not finished counting their votes yet. This is very bad news for Coleman. Minneapolis is pulling the same scam that the Mayor of Gary, Indiana did during the Dem. primaries. They are holding their votes until they find out how many they need for Franken.


32 posted on 11/21/2008 8:36:42 PM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: television is just wrong

Why do they always stand by and then cow tow? That’s why we are through with them


33 posted on 11/21/2008 8:42:18 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: cherry
you idiot losers and whiners......you couldn't be counted on in a tough situation if you 're life depended on it.....

its too bad the conservative "side" has such a "woe is me" mentality.......

some of you should be ashamed that you're such wuzzies....

You are so right!

64% of the vote counted and the lead is 120 where it was 215 with area's more favorable to Coleman yet to count.

Even if it goes at the same rate Coleman would still be ahead by 80 or so votes.

I expect Coleman to win.

34 posted on 11/21/2008 8:43:13 PM PST by billva
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To: rudman

“”Coleman is as rino as they come.””

Again, it’s like the McCain thing. But have you listened to idiot Al Franken???

So many, many fellow conservatives (I’m one) talk about “next time” when/if the GOP learns their lesson (which I agree they very much needed to learn before 11/4).

Whenever I hear this argument, though, I shake my head in sorrow, because with BHO as POTUS and (God forbid) a bullet-proof Democrat congress and senate, there may not BE a “next time” or second chance.

I’m SO convinced that we GOP/conservatives needed to put country first and ideology/politics second when facing SUCH a dangerous threat to this country in BHO and the radical Far Left. There’s absolutely no satisfaction in saying the outcome of this election will “teach conservatives/Republicans a lesson”. The situation is far more serious than that, and the “lesson” could well be a fatal one for this once great nation.


35 posted on 11/21/2008 8:53:55 PM PST by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Cboldt

Oh I agree that the government is already a laughing stock (tragically so). I guess I was just giving the executive branch the benefit of the doubt as not being one of the 3 rings...yet.


36 posted on 11/21/2008 8:57:15 PM PST by mkcc30 (Reagan's shadow had more substance than Obama!)
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To: Enchante

“”the addition of Al Franken can hardly dilute the talent pool””

It’s about SO much more than that - pray it won’t happen. It would be the 59th Senate seat, one away from the magic 60 filibuster-proof Democrat-controlled Senate.


37 posted on 11/21/2008 9:06:19 PM PST by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: billva

What is the statistical likelihood that so many high-profile races can finish by such close margins? Bush/Gore, Coleman/Franken, Gregoire/Rossi, etc. Someone is finagling the votes.


38 posted on 11/21/2008 9:06:20 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: pissant
Why are you assuming Coleman will lose? With 64% counted (recounted) the statistics show Coleman's lead will stay. Franken would need to outperform the first 64% already counted (and that seems to have been in DEM solid places already, with GOP coming in later).
39 posted on 11/21/2008 9:14:34 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: ccmay
What is the statistical likelihood that so many high-profile races can finish by such close margins? Bush/Gore, Coleman/Franken, Gregoire/Rossi, etc. Someone is finagling the votes.

The likelihood of close races in a lot of these cases is very good. Two of the three you mentioned, Gregoire/Rossi and Coleman/Franken are in heavy Democratic states where it is good that the Republican can compete.

Also Bush won in that contest and I believe Coleman is going to win this one.

As to the Gregoire/Rossi race, that was bogus they way Gregoire won.

But the answer to your question is that there is no violation of statistical principals/probablities with those three races.

40 posted on 11/21/2008 9:30:12 PM PST by billva
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