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Obama's state secret: His birth certificate!
WND ^ | 11/21/08 | Joe Farah

Posted on 11/21/2008 2:05:30 PM PST by pissant

So much for those pledges of "open government."

So much for those promises of "change."

So much for his upcoming oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.

Barack Hussein Obama is still refusing to disclose to the American public something as innocent and as basic as his full, undoctored birth certificate to establish beyond any shadow of a doubt – and that doubt is growing daily – that he is a natural-born American citizen.

Ironically, now that the election is over, the pressure is building. A few bold members of Congress are getting interested in demanding hearings on the issue. The lawsuits are increasing. More pundits and activists are beginning to mobilize.

I, too, am raising the stakes.

Beginning today, I am personally sponsoring a petition campaign right here at this Internet news source, to all controlling legal authorities to determine Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency under Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution and to use all of their persuasive powers to make this information freely available to the rulers of this country – we the people.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bhosos; birthcertificate; certifigate; farah; larrysinclairslover; letitgoalready; obama; obamasecrets; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile
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To: Oldschoolreformer
If it's crap, why won't Obama produce an actual birth certificate? Why spend $800,000 on lawyers to fight having to produce a birth certificate? Why show only a certificate of live birth which proves nothing? As I told you before the two documents are very different.

"Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence,"

In other words, Obama could have been born anywhere and get a Hawaiian COLB. His Indonesian born sister, Maya, has a Hawaiian COLB.

You come on this forum, wringing your hands and have no information. You simply don't like the research. You will not change anyone's mind. You'll just make posters angry.

261 posted on 11/22/2008 6:19:49 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: oldengineer
The fact on the table is that the state of Hawaii stands behind an official document that says Obama was born in Honolulu.

I have not seen a direct quote from any Hawaiian official stating that Obama was born in Hawaii. What they have very carefully stated is that his original bc is on file. That clarifies nothing. His Indonesian born sister, Maya, also has a Hawaiian COLB and a bc on file.

262 posted on 11/22/2008 6:34:17 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: blueplum

That’s a very well written post, I hope you don’t mind if you see parts of it duplicated in response to the doubters & trolls that flock to these threads.


263 posted on 11/22/2008 7:28:51 AM PST by Gemsbok (Follow the trail,...,.,.,.,..... I know where it leads)
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To: Oldschoolreformer

Why do you so lamely imply that there is no reason or right for American’s to know who their POTUS is?


264 posted on 11/22/2008 7:37:05 AM PST by Gemsbok (Follow the trail,...,.,.,.,..... I know where it leads)
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To: cripplecreek
I was a skeptic at first but something really stinks about the fact that nearly a million dollars has been spent to keep the birth certificate out of the public eye.

How does spending a ton of money keep a document secret?

265 posted on 11/22/2008 7:39:02 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat. But they know what's best.)
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To: knarf
It is impossible to go through a single day without hearing or seeing some kind of promotional celebrating the historic election of President Obabma .... later in the commercial(s) do you hear the words 'president elect' ... a gold clad dollar, a silver coin, mugs, t-shirts ..

Wait for the commemorative manger.

266 posted on 11/22/2008 7:42:33 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat. But they know what's best.)
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To: Oldschoolreformer

Oldschoolreformer:
“Original birth certificate ——————————————Posted”
“This crap infecting a once proud website forced me to finally sign up...”
“where a crazy woman was given a microphone and he was forced to disown his own supporters...”

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You’re a real comedian. Thanks for the laughs today.


267 posted on 11/22/2008 7:43:46 AM PST by Sparko
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To: Oldschoolreformer

Passport myths?
What the heck is this about?

THREE TIMES OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE WILLING TO GO TO PRISON FOR HIM?
A sane person has got to ask themselves, WHY?

WASHINGTON (CNN) March 22, 2008-— The CEO of a company whose employee is accused of improperly looking at the passport files of presidential candidates is a consultant to the Barack Obama campaign, a source said Saturday.

Analysis Corp. President John Brennan, shown here in 2004, advises Barack Obama, a source tells CNN.

John O. Brennan, president and CEO of the Analysis Corp., advises the Illinois Democrat on foreign policy and intelligence issues, the source said.

Brennan briefed the media on behalf of the campaign this month.

The executive is a former senior CIA official and former interim director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

He contributed $2,300 to the Obama campaign in January.

When asked about the contribution, a State Department official told CNN’s Zain Verjee, “We ethically awarded contracts. Political affiliation is not one of the factors that we check.”

On Friday, the department revealed that Obama’s passport file was improperly accessed three times this year, and the security of passport files of the two other major presidential candidates — Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican John McCain — had also been breached. Watch the secretary of state apologize for the breach »

Three contract employees are accused in the wrongdoing, including the one who works for Analysis Corp. and who was disciplined. That contract employee accessed McCain’s file in addition to Obama’s. None of the contract employees was identified. Learn more about the companies involved »


268 posted on 11/22/2008 7:49:32 AM PST by Gemsbok (Follow the trail,...,.,.,.,..... I know where it leads)
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To: Oldschoolreformer

“I think McCain’s incompetence put him in a position
where a crazy woman was given a microphone and he
was forced to disown his own supporters.”
- - -
McCain was and is incompetent and he never had more than a few “supporters”.
His “base” was comprised of anti-Obama and anti-democrat,
but very few were pro-McCain or pro-rebublican.
Prior to the arrival of Governor Palin on the scene,
McCain’s chances, and the republican party’s chances were nil.
Governor Palin drew more voters to the poll than John McCain did.
The final mix was overwhelmingly pro-Palin, anti-Obama, and anti-democrat.
There were very very few who voted pro-McCain.


269 posted on 11/22/2008 8:01:03 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Oldschoolreformer
2. Obama has a passport, drivers license, and social security number.

None of which require being a natural born citizen. But have you seen his passport, or the others for that matter. The one he used now is quite likely a "diplomatic" one, as members of Congress are entitled to, and which do not require the same documentation.

3. What evidence do you have that he has ever refused to show the bc? That you Billy Jeff? I guess it does depend on the meaning of "refused". He sent his lawyers to argue "standing" when he could have just provided the BC, it would have been much much cheaper to do so.

270 posted on 11/22/2008 8:09:12 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: N. Theknow

Attorneys aren’t free.


271 posted on 11/22/2008 8:14:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Oldschoolreformer

You know, you can go to the Wash Post website and post comments to columns published on that website. I think you’d be better off posting fawning love notes to Kathleen Parker there. Adios.


272 posted on 11/22/2008 9:15:06 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: oldengineer

I’m amazed that you signed up - what was it, yesterday? - and every post you’ve made is to lamely, although slickly, derail any discussion on this one point.

My only question is whether you are a volunteer Obamashill or a paid one. I kind of veer towards paid, you write like a lawyer. You kind of have a “paid” aura.

Kind of like the difference between a regular slut and a prostitute.


273 posted on 11/22/2008 10:26:19 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thank you.


274 posted on 11/22/2008 10:26:57 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Admin Moderator
I think you’d be better off posting fawning love notes to Kathleen Parker there.

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LOL!

275 posted on 11/22/2008 10:29:35 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: oldengineer
"Actually, I would say I’m simply someone trained and experienced at assessing data."

Yes, but one can't assess data that isn't available, can one?

This is why some with more than a 2 digit IQ are asking for confirmation of Obama's citizenship status (as a 'natural born citizen') via the 'data' that would be found on his birth certificate.

"I also understand that ignoring the data to avoid challenging a desired result never ends well."

We are not 'ignoring the data' rather we are responding to a lack of same, namely, an approved and legitimate birth certificate, showing beyond a doubt that Obama -- in conformity with OUR constitution -- is qualified to be POTUS.

We 'the people' (that's us)believe that the above is a most reasonable request and further assert that it is our duty -- as American citizens -- to 'police' the constitution, lest it become corrupted through an imposition of a foreign power.

Note: This was the reasoning of the founding fathers in stipulating that the POTUS be a 'natural born' citizen.

"It certainly isn’t going to help the Republican Party get anywhere."

Have you ever heard the expression 'changing deck chairs on the titanic?'

If we allow the evisceration of OUR guiding document -- The Constitution Of The United States -- the question of party affiliation will have become, at that point in time, rather moot.

STE=Q

276 posted on 11/22/2008 10:37:43 AM PST by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I stand corrected.


277 posted on 11/22/2008 11:06:31 AM PST by exnavy (keep praying!)
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To: oldengineer

Actually I meant my last comment to you to be addressed to oldschoolreformer, although it remains to be seen if it works for you too.


278 posted on 11/22/2008 11:21:10 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: exnavy

On the contrary, my apologies to you for being so rude on my part.

I am very sorry. Please forgive me.

So beyond that…what is going to happen?

Think about this in the choices which we really never had. It was the king makers that did it for us:

McCain is a total nut.

Obama is a communist.

Hillary is a lesbian.

If what I have read on FR is correct, Obama’s choice for VP has had 3 brain farts and is a drunk.

We are in good shape/sarc.


279 posted on 11/22/2008 11:27:01 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: little jeremiah; oldengineer
"and every post you’ve made is to lamely, although slickly, derail any discussion on this one point."

He's not so 'slick' ... just attempting to put us on the defensive by inverting the argument or 'flipping the script'-- to use the common argot.

The problem is such dialectic acrobatics -- replete with circumlocution designed obfuscate this most vital issue... an issue that the MSM is so reticent to report -- attempts to divert us from engaging in an otherwise fruitful and edifying discussion.

STE=Q

280 posted on 11/22/2008 11:31:04 AM PST by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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