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CA Lawsuit Claims Obama Not Born in US (NBC 4 Los Angeles )
nbc4 ^ | Thu, Nov 20, 2008

Posted on 11/20/2008 8:49:04 PM PST by Red Steel

Buena Park Pastor says Obama was born in Kenya and can not be sworn in as President

President-Elect Barack Obama says he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. Obama provided a birth certificate to prove it, but a Buena Park pastor says Obama is not telling the truth.

The Orange County Register reports that Rev. Wiley Drake, who ran for vice president on the American Independent ticket, filed a lawsuit claiming "Obama has not provided sufficient proof he is a U.S. citizen, and asks that Secretary of State Debra Bowen not certify California's election results until he provides more concrete evidence.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthcertificategate; certifigate; keyes; lawsuit; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile
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To: mylife

So, I guess you read that Congress decides....


21 posted on 11/20/2008 9:21:50 PM PST by KittenClaws
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To: nufsed
Plus the fact that he traveled to Pakistan in 1980 using an Indonesian passport. In order to get one of those, you need to be an Indonesian citizen. We did not have a dual citizenship agreement with them at the time. Obama would have had to effectively renounce his U.S. citizenship to get said passport. Am I wrong, anyone?
22 posted on 11/20/2008 9:22:24 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (Sara Palin: Americas' last, best hope for survival.)
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To: nufsed
When did he provide a birth certificate?

And who did he provide whatever it was to. (Yea I know what it was purported to be)

23 posted on 11/20/2008 9:23:10 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: KittenClaws

Yeah and its scary as hell.

Look at what they’ve decided lately


24 posted on 11/20/2008 9:23:32 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NurdlyPeon

So what’s the scenario? His dad or whoever enrolls him in school as an Indonesian and he carries that with him until he’s grown and comes to the states. Did he use an Hawaiian CLB to get an American passport?


25 posted on 11/20/2008 9:23:55 PM PST by nufsed
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To: concerned about politics
He did a fake one. It had the name Barrack Hussein Oboma printed on it. That's not his birth name. It's his adopted name.

It might be his real or birth name, but one of his adopted names was definitely "Barry Soetoro", but if so the vault/long form version of his Certificate of Birth should reflect that. It should also reflect which hospital he was born in, as well as what city. The doctor or nurse who delivered him should also be on the BC, with his signature.

26 posted on 11/20/2008 9:28:27 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mylife

So, this the second NBC affiliate to engage, the first being Augusta, GA.

Drudge had it up for a day then he took it down.


27 posted on 11/20/2008 9:28:33 PM PST by txhurl (somebody just bought 12 Carrier Battle Groups for 600 million dollars)
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To: LucyT; Calpernia

Have you seen this one?


28 posted on 11/20/2008 9:30:57 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: motoman
I'm not confused about anything. The link I provided is claiming Leo's case may be heard by the SCOTUS by Dec 5th... OR NOT...
29 posted on 11/20/2008 9:31:42 PM PST by tubebender (Retirement...The art and science of Killing time before it Kills you...)
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To: KittenClaws

They could just switch places—does the VP have to be natural born? Could not succeed obviously (in more ways than one.) So if something happened to Biden, Pelosi would ascend to the throne?

Why didn’t they just run someone like Biden? Because he wouldn’t win obviously, like Kerry and Gore. Bait and switch!


30 posted on 11/20/2008 9:32:25 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: Red Steel

Do I dare hope this has legs? At least the pressure is building a little more now. Maybe this could preclude a 2nd term. I would take Biden in a second just to see the looks on the faces of my moonbat friends.


31 posted on 11/20/2008 9:32:47 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: nufsed

I’m waiting for the story: Sign of the Times: US President Turns Out to Be An Illegal Alien.”


32 posted on 11/20/2008 9:33:12 PM PST by nufsed
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To: txflake

I was wondering why Drudge isn’t showing these lawsuits on his page? Do you think he knows it’s a lost cause and will just cause him to be investigated by the new regime?


33 posted on 11/20/2008 9:34:33 PM PST by IceAge
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To: KittenClaws
If Hussein is not legit, we get Biden

I don't think so. He would still be the Vice President Eject.

What's the rule on that?

34 posted on 11/20/2008 9:34:47 PM PST by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: KittenClaws

There’s some dispute about that. I’ve heard it said that if Obama were to be disqualified BEFORE the electors meet in December, then votes may only be case for candidates who were on the ballot for PRESIDENT. Biden was not running for President, ergo he may not receive any electoral votes. That would likely mean that McCain would be your President.

If the Electors have already voted & Obama is then disqualified there has to be a new election. GWB continues in office until the re-do is over.

If after Obama is inagurated, THEN it would be Biden.


35 posted on 11/20/2008 9:34:49 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Tennessee Nana
“If they do, AAAAArnold will be running in 2012...”

If they do there won’t be an election in 2012. Maybe the Mayans had something after all...

36 posted on 11/20/2008 9:35:32 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: nufsed
My understanding was that it was a certificate of live birth, not a birth certificate.

No it was a Certification of Live Birth. Essentially it's a partial data dump from the State's birth records. Pre-computer it was an extract of the information from the microfiche copy of the Certificate of birth.

But one of the key points is that it was only provided to "friendly" groups. A low res scanned image on the internet does not count as "providing" it to neutral or even hostile groups.

It should have been provided to each states election officials and it should be provided to the Federal Election commission, and to the President of the Senate (currently Dick Cheny) who is to open the electoral vote reports before the House and Senate.

37 posted on 11/20/2008 9:35:38 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: nufsed
Deport him .....after he gets out of jail for perpetrating fraud on We The People.
38 posted on 11/20/2008 9:35:44 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: thesetruths
does the VP have to be natural born?

Yes. The consitutional requirements for VP are the same as they would be for President.

39 posted on 11/20/2008 9:37:23 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Syncro

I think I did see it explained in such a way we could have a President and Vice President from different parties.


40 posted on 11/20/2008 9:38:21 PM PST by thesetruths
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