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Was Leo Donofrio's case fast tracked at SCOTUS today?!? Emergency review like Bush V. Gore?
Natural Born Citizen Blog - Leo Donofrio ^ | 11-20-2008 | Leo C. Donofrio

Posted on 11/20/2008 8:10:27 PM PST by Frantzie

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To: Frantzie

Lan’s show
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There is a better link that is more direct but I can’t find it. It uses a player on his web site.

Alan Stang’s show:
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301 posted on 11/21/2008 8:06:56 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: NDman

“you guys do realize if you take this interpretation that our first 5 presidents wernt eligible to be president because when they were born they were also british citizens. Hell washington fought along side the british at one point.”

First, welcome to Free Republic!

The Constitution states: “No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
Our founding fathers wanted to make sure that no President of our country had any possible loyalty to another country so being “natural born” was clearly stated. At the same time, our founding fathers wanted to allow for one or more of them to run for President during the early years of our country. That is why they made sure to add “or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution”. This clause allowed that they could run for President because although they were citizens at the time of the adoption of our Constitution they were not “natural born” citizens because at the time of their births our country was still under British rule.

So now you must see that our first five presidents were in fact meeting the constitutional requirements since they were living at the time our constitution was adopted....even though they were citizens, not “natural born” citizens.


302 posted on 11/21/2008 8:09:47 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: hiho hiho

Depends on how & when he is disqualified.

Before November 4, disqualification would affect whether O is on the ballot of a state.

November 4 was the popular election, where citizens submitted their votes to the states, which in turn determine electors under state laws. After this date, disqualification affects how the state(s) determine and allocate their electors - it’s a state issue. The suit now before the Supreme Court, IIRC, is to demand the Secretary of State of NJ to NOT assign NJ’s electors to vote for O.

December 13 (15?) is the ACTUAL presidential election, when electors submit their votes to Congress. At this point, disqualification affects whether Congress will accept an electoral vote for a disqualified candidate. If disqualification is determined before the vote, a vote for the candidate would be rejected, or the elector would submit a vote for a non-qualified candidate (the great farce of the general election is that citizens vote for electors, who are in turn NOT bound to vote accordingly).

After Congress certifies the election, disqualification becomes ... complicated. While the Constitution specifies HOW the president-elect is sworn in, it does NOT specify WHO does the swearing-in; traditionally it is the Chief Justice, but it could just as easily be Rev. Wright. Once certified by Congress on Dec. 13, O becomes President, waiting to Jan. 20 only to mouth the right words and walk into the Oval Office. Removal would require impeachment, which one can reasonably assume isn’t going to happen.


303 posted on 11/21/2008 8:11:09 AM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: singfreedom

I had gone to the article at WND way back but only read briefly. Since then I had the link below bookmarked so I could keep up with the latest posts. Here it is.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2132471/posts?q=1&;page=2402#2402


304 posted on 11/21/2008 8:15:09 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Calpernia
I don’t know why that NRA material is not part of a school’s curriculum.

Now THAT is a great idea. If schools can instruct kids how to use condoms, they can teach them out to safely use a gun. If libs really are concerned about kids accidentally shooting people, gun safety and awareness is the key. Not banning the weapons.
305 posted on 11/21/2008 8:18:31 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: so_real; All
This might be a little off topic, but it is geared to the democrats that voted for OB - get moving and donate now!

Below is what reads from site..https://donate.barackobama.com/page/...source=mainnav You proved that change can happen. You built an unprecedented grassroots organization in all 50 states that brought a record number of people into the political process -- many for the first time, many for the first time in a long time. Our success required unprecedented resources, and the Democratic National Committee played a major role on the ground efforts that generated record turnout up and down the ticket. Please make a donation to the DNC to help fund the efforts it undertook in 2008. When you donate $30 or more, you'll receive a limited edition shirt to show your support for change. And an e-mail to Obama supporters: I have a special request for you. The Obama-Biden Transition Project is a nonpartisan entity whose purpose is to facilitate the transition to a new government and prepare for the next administration. In the past, efforts like these have often been very secretive and funded by the D.C. lobbying and corporate community. But, like in the campaign, we've decided to do things differently. For the first time, transition efforts won't be financed with donations from Washington lobbyists and PACs -- which means we'll need to keep asking for your help. Your generosity during the campaign helped get us here, but building a more transparent and open government means continuing to rely on a broader group of people to do this the right way. We only have a few weeks to assess the state of the federal agencies, prepare our agenda, and staff key positions in the new administration. Your support right now will be crucial to helping us accomplish these goals. Will you help support the urgent mission of our transition team with a donation of $25 or more? https://donate.barackobama.com/transition You know that we got here by building this campaign from the ground up. We're committed to building the White House team the same way. Thank you, David David Plouffe Campaign Manager Obama for America

Chop, Chop! Its also a way to bring this back up to the top (I hope)
306 posted on 11/21/2008 8:20:13 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I believe it’s “hanai” - sort of informal adoption by another family member like grandparent or even by someone other than family.

But the Dunhams had just recently moved to HI so why would they be aware of or follow Hawaiian customs?


307 posted on 11/21/2008 8:24:50 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: NDman
Wow ... maybe you should try reading the Constitution first before commenting about it. The Founding Fathers knew better what they were doing than you ... clearly. Citizens of our new nation at the time the Constitution was adopted were, logically, exempt from the natural-born requirement. Obama is not. Open the door for Obama, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad runs in 2012. Okay, more likely Arnold Schwarzenegger runs in 2012. Think about it.
308 posted on 11/21/2008 8:27:39 AM PST by so_real
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To: Frantzie
OK; I'm kinda dumb. But I Googled the Supreme Court and clicked on the Docket. There I found a search engine. I instituted a search for "Donofrio," and this popped up: http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm .

What's it mean? I dunno, but it says that it has been "DISTRIBUTED for Conference of December 5, 2008."

Is it to early to start shouting, "Hooray!!!"

309 posted on 11/21/2008 8:31:57 AM PST by night reader (NRA Life Member since 1962)
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To: STARWISE

How do you know that Donofrio thinks that Obama really has a vault BC showing he was indeed born in HI? He actually thinks that to be so?


310 posted on 11/21/2008 8:33:19 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah
How do you know that Donofrio thinks that Obama really has a vault BC showing he was indeed born in HI? He actually thinks that to be so?

It doesn't matter at this point whether he was or wasn't born in Hawaii as I see it with Donofrio's case. His case with Obama is that he was born by an American mother and a British citizen which would only allow him to be a citizen, not a natural born citizen. Twicky!
311 posted on 11/21/2008 8:38:30 AM PST by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: CaribouCrossing

“I have boycotted both of their radio shows because of their lack of concern over this potential crisis.”

Maybe Rush, Hannity, et al., are laying low about this because it DOES have the potential of working in our favor. Once they start discussing it, then the MSM would have to come out in force to discredit it — lambaste Donofrio and others like him, etc. Maybe our guys are standing back allowing SCOTUS to do their job with minimal attention. I don’t know; just a thought.


312 posted on 11/21/2008 8:40:17 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (We have elected a man ... who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen. - Dollard post)
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To: BP2

Thanks for that post. It’s an interesting approach to the legal problem and it is precisely how the founders would have looked at it.


313 posted on 11/21/2008 8:40:19 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: NDman
NDman Since Nov 15, 2008

Are you related to B Hussein O?

314 posted on 11/21/2008 8:49:06 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: little jeremiah; jcsjcm
And the beauty of it is, even Obama's own "fact check" website (and again I use the term loosely) does not dispute his historic dual citizenship. I'm going to quote this and put a link to the "fact check" website just in case they "correct" their facts and it disappears -- I have a PDF as well.

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

Dual citizenship precludes natural-born citizenship. Allowing a foreign citizenship to expire after the fact, or renouncing a foreign citizenship after the fact, does not and cannot instate a natural-born status.

The case is clear and obvious. Obama is not eligible. The trick was to get through the masses of red-tape as well as legislative and judicial activism to get the facts on the table! Unless the SCOTUS is prepared to throw the Constitution out the window, the end result is (or at least, should be) clear.
315 posted on 11/21/2008 8:54:52 AM PST by so_real
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To: NDman

If you’d read all the posts, and the Constitution, you’ll see that this issue was covered clearly.


316 posted on 11/21/2008 8:55:41 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (We have elected a man ... who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen. - Dollard post)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“Maybe Rush, Hannity, et al., are laying low about this because it DOES have the potential of working in our favor. Once they start discussing it, then the MSM would have to come out in force to discredit it — lambaste Donofrio and others like him, etc. Maybe our guys are standing back allowing SCOTUS to do their job with minimal attention. I don’t know; just a thought.”

Excellent point! I also have been upset with the lack of coverage and have been emailing links and info about this to all of them for over a month. And nothing from them, and especially now with it on the SC docket for action! But you have made an excellent point and you are most likely correct. Thanks for changing my mind about being upset with my very favorite talk show conservatives! :)


317 posted on 11/21/2008 8:56:36 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: LucyT; pissant; Polarik

Thanks for the ping Lucy.

Pissant and Polarik, you guys and a few other FReepers have been all over this. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed watching things unfold here. Thanks for staying on this.


318 posted on 11/21/2008 9:00:04 AM PST by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: LibertyRocks

I’ve had a couple of other, brief notices of virus within the past 2-3 mos but nothing like last night and hard to make it disappear. There is something up all right. This a.m. FR is very slow, too.


319 posted on 11/21/2008 9:03:54 AM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: so_real

Good post. The Framers were worried about someone like Obama who was a British citizen at birth. They were very specific.

If the Justices blow this off then they might as well go home because The Constitution will be meaningless. The fact that his entire life and schools records are sealed should give the Justices a real clue to what they are dealing with.

Unless Obama is 200 + years old he is not eligible.


320 posted on 11/21/2008 9:06:59 AM PST by Frantzie
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