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Evangelicals -- A Drag on or Essential to the GOP?
davidlimbaugh.com ^ | 11/20/08 | david limbaugh

Posted on 11/20/2008 5:24:05 PM PST by lancer256

A good friend of mine (let's call him Bob) is convinced that unless the GOP puts abortion "aside as its focal point, it simply cannot win and regain power." That's especially interesting in light of Kathleen Parker's latest column, which disses the evangelical wing of the GOP.

Bob's point is that "we've lost a majority of women over this issue as they have become one-issue voters." It's not only liberal women but also others who believe it's simply not the government's business.

Kathleen Parker broadens the point considerably beyond abortion: "The evangelical, right-wing, oogedy-boogedy branch of the GOP is what ails the erstwhile conservative party and will continue to afflict and marginalize its constituents if reckoning doesn't soon cometh." Since the 1980s or so, says Parker, the GOP "has become increasingly beholden to an element that used to be relegated to wooden crates on street corners. ... The GOP has surrendered its high ground to its lowest brows. In the process, the party has alienated its non-base constituents."

I'll resist the temptation to respond specifically to Kathleen's uncharitable indictment of us knuckle draggers because I like Kathleen personally and because I want to respond to her and Bob's overlapping contention that certain social conservatives are dragging the party down.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; badmove; brainfart; christianvote; cultofdeath; dontbestupid; election; evangelical; goaheadandsee; gop; gopsuicide; leftistnonsense; limbaugh; rinotripe
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Correct. However the the groups that vote Republicans are much closer to each other socially and economically then the factions that vote democrat. The democrat party is made of absolute opposites.


21 posted on 11/20/2008 5:48:08 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: lancer256
there was a chunk of them (evangelicals and other staunch conservatives) missing during the election. If McQueeg had not been the standard bearer, we might have won this fishing tournament.

as it was Sarahcuda made it a horse race...

22 posted on 11/20/2008 5:52:09 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: lancer256

Parker is a traitor, she has no say in what the GOP should do.

Explain how you are different from a dem if you’re for abortion.

McCain being unable to differentiate himself from Obama was why he lost.

The strongest arguments against Obama came from Palin, McCain just made grunting sounds about reaching across the aisle when what we are wanting is someone that will fight, someone that will articulate what conservatism is about.


23 posted on 11/20/2008 5:52:32 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: lancer256
I will NEVER vote for a pro choice rep (national or local, ever.
24 posted on 11/20/2008 5:53:37 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Don't blame Texas.. No more RINO's or Mavericks)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Yes - there are a lot of women who only vote on that issue and I think they are morons - I, as a female myself, think there are more issues out there that trump whether someone is pro-life or pro-choice - you have to look at all the issues and platforms of the party - plus - as long as nobody is forcing their belief system on you then it should be ok - if we can communicate that we believe in less govt. and that it’s a state issue effectively maybe we can make a difference. I also think that a lot of these young female voters only voting on that issue will wise up esp. after they get married and have children - and some may wise up if this presidency bombs


25 posted on 11/20/2008 5:56:16 PM PST by Lilpug15 (GIRD YOUR LOINS!)
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To: lancer256; All

Evangelicals put Jimmy Carter into the White House.
The Evangelicals sat home for George H. W. Bush, Bob Dole and John McCain.
Those are the facts.
Essential, yes. Dependable, no.


26 posted on 11/20/2008 5:57:24 PM PST by fortunate sun (Proud Palinista!)
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To: lancer256; All

Pity poor Ms. Parker. She’s all aglow at the moment from her recognition and praise from the left. Problem is, they’re through with her and will be discarding her soon. She’s served her purpose. On top of all that, the right doesn’t want her back. Her career is circling the bowl.


27 posted on 11/20/2008 5:59:01 PM PST by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: All

Right on, David.


28 posted on 11/20/2008 5:59:26 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: lancer256
They are both. Conservatives have different flavors and when we get over identified with one of them it causes a loss of the other flavors. Also politics is frankly more cultural then ideology. We are losing everyplace outside of the evangelical, southern and small town culture. On the other hand they are absloutely essential to us. We need a new fusion and leaders who can balance them all.
29 posted on 11/20/2008 6:00:02 PM PST by bilhosty
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To: fortunate sun

addendum:
I’m against abortion. Not a result of religion, simple value and respect for innocent life. If an individual wants to end his or her life, ill or not, let him or her do it and wave bye with a smile.


30 posted on 11/20/2008 6:00:31 PM PST by fortunate sun (Proud Palinista!)
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To: lancer256

When conservative Christians don’t come out and vote REPUBLICANS LOSE (McCain, 2006 Congress, Dole, Bush Sr 2nd term).


31 posted on 11/20/2008 6:01:03 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: lancer256

I believe that the democrats have out manuvered the GOP on this issue. Talking to 2 college girls about abortion, they stated they had to vote democrat because they let you keep your baby. I said “WHAT”, they said they let you keep your baby. I asked What does “pro-choice” mean? -they said it means you can keep your baby and you don’t have to get an abortion. I then asked them what the republicans believe,- they didn’t have any idea,- I asked them what Pro-Life means - they never heard of that. I then asked them where they learned this, they both said their high school teachers and their college professors - AND they went to different high schools and different colleges.
We have been out manuvered on our message!

We are not reaching the youth of this country and they don’t understand our message


32 posted on 11/20/2008 6:02:17 PM PST by conservativesister
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To: Repeal The 17th

Now you’re a person who understands the true make up of the party.


33 posted on 11/20/2008 6:02:45 PM PST by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: Westbrook

“* Divorce for any other reason than sexual impurity is SIN.”

I agree with your entire post except for the above.


34 posted on 11/20/2008 6:04:17 PM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: lancer256

Funny how women desperately want to murder their offspring. Maybe this is a sign that the country is in its last days. No sane society would promote the murder of their next generation like half this country seems to.


35 posted on 11/20/2008 6:05:12 PM PST by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: dan1123

Name three developed nations that have outlawed abortion.


36 posted on 11/20/2008 6:06:58 PM PST by durasell
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To: fortunate sun

“Evangelicals put Jimmy Carter into the White House.
The Evangelicals sat home for George H. W. Bush, Bob Dole and John McCain.
Those are the facts.
Essential, yes. Dependable, no.”

Socons (not many of them) are not going to vote against their faith, or their values which stem from it. Not ever.


37 posted on 11/20/2008 6:07:52 PM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: durasell
Name three developed nations that have outlawed abortion.

Are you equating "developed" to "sane"?

38 posted on 11/20/2008 6:10:50 PM PST by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: dan1123

No, I’m saying that abortion is not particular to the U.S.


39 posted on 11/20/2008 6:12:23 PM PST by durasell
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To: Grunthor; All

Yet, they would be elect, by default, a candidate who embodies those things they abhor. funny, huh?


40 posted on 11/20/2008 6:12:25 PM PST by fortunate sun (Proud Palinista!)
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