Posted on 11/19/2008 11:53:13 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
Edited on 11/20/2008 12:22:43 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
DALLAS
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From Time, by Pink Floyd (Dark Side of the Moon)
Ping! Bump! Ping!
Ping!
The wheels of justice do turn slow. Why wasn’t this dealt with years ago? And how long till the guilty woman dies for murdering her kids?
Too long for sure, my friend.
She should have exited long ago.
Dotting i’s and crossing T’s sure
takes a lot of time nowadays.
I watched the show about this case...I’m not so sure Darlie is guilty. I think everything should be tested that can be tested with all the technology that is available.
I’m not sure what show you are referring to, but I have
seen plenty on this case.
I worked at the same company with Darlie and her hubby
Darin back in the 80’s and 90’s before she killed
her kids.
Darlie was one strange bird, I tell ya. She had her
own little circle of friends and if you weren’t in that
circle, she wouldn’t give you the time of day ...
And I agree about the DNA testing, btw. :)
She had her own little circle of friends and if you weren’t in that circle, she wouldn’t give you the time of day ...
So what? I went to high school with several girls like that. It's not a prelude to murder.
Yeah. It’s either going to show her as a liar or throw a wrench into the whole schebang. I’m eager to know what the results are.
I watched it assuming she was guilty; by the end of the show, I was wondering how they managed to convict her.
So were some of the jurors, when they saw the evidence that was not presented at trial. The trial focused on the "self-inflicted" neck wounds; but the woman looked like she had been dropped out of a plane. The bruises were simply hideous; and in places that would be "defensive."
I have no idea what happened in that house, but it certainly deserves further investigation.
In my school, girls like that did kill people- usually before lunch or during gym.
I believe Darlie killed her kids and I agree testing everything is a good idea.
I really followed this case.
All of the forensic evidence all point to Darlie.
The bloody footprints are hers.
The knife that was used to cut the screen was
placed back where it belonged (how nice of the
murderer to use a household knife and put it back).
Much more than that ...
I followed this case closely, too.
The daily trial coverage and a lot of stuff after
the trial.
I paid a lot of attention to it and I thought the
prosecutors did a great job with the forensics
evidence.
I am convinced that Darlie did this and that she
will eventually pay for it. In this world or the
next, for sure ...
Thank you! That’s the one.
You stated that very well. That’s how I felt by the end.
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Routier contends an unidentified intruder killed her sons
and stabbed her in the family home in Rowlett in 1996.
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The difference between Darlie Routier and O.J. ???
O.J. got off and is free to hit 18 holes a day while
lookin' for the REAL killer !
Whoopsie !!!
I forgot ... O.J. is back in the slammer for more mischief. :)
OH I hope they get this girl out.
She was so screwed by the police in this case.
Yeah, they tested her counter top and said there was traces of blood on it, therefore, she must have done this herself and cleaned.
I don’t know about your house, but I cut meat all the time and I’m sure some blood gets on my counter top. They never determined what species of blood was on it. But used that in court.
The whole case was shady and sad.
She is guilty as heck. I have read the transcripts from the court. I was a paralegal for a defense attorney and I have seen many crime scene photos.
A knife is an unusual way of killing. It happens, but intruders rarely use a knife, and in this case a knife from the house was used. A murder with a knife is up close and personal.
From the website Darlie Did it is the following from the court transcripts:
The knife from the Routier’s own knife block had fibers on it matching that of the screen that had been slashed. These fibers were proven not to be from the Forensics dusting brush, but the screen.
Q: It’s certainly — are you saying that the material that you found on this knife blade is consistent with the material that makes up this screen right here?
A. That’s right.
Q. You couldn’t see any difference?
A. That’s right.
Doctors testified that Darlie’s wounds were hesitation wounds and were not consistent with what she had claimed happened that night.
Q.And generally associated with a self-inflicted — say a suicide, for example, or attempted suicide. Don’t you have what are frequently referred to is as hesitation wounds?
A. They may be present.
Q: Okay. And, this is just a situation where the individual, once they cut the skin say, maybe it’s not that good of an idea after all, and then they jerk back or stop and then they get a little more. And you will see a lot jerks in the outer portions of the skin, won’t you?
A: Yes, you may.
Q: And … isn’t it fair to say, that her wounds are, in the neck, are quite deep for hesitation wound
A: Well, not necessarily.
Darlie claims that the alleged intruder ran through the kitchen and exited through the garage. There was no blood nor footprints and the dust on the sill had not been disturbed. Also the intruder would have had to exit either through the gate or over the fence again there was no blood. It is my belief that the intruder would have been covered in blood hence leaving some sort of trail.
Q. With regards to the wine rack, sir, did you see any evidence whatsoever that someone had run into that wine rack while leaving the residence?
A: No.
Q. Would you, based on your 39 years of experience, would you expect an intruder leaving this scene to go through the gate, close it and then latch it -behind him before he left?
A. Not that difficult of a swinging gate, but I wouldn’t expect any intruder to shut a gate when they were fleeing.
Q. One final area: Sir, when you came to the conclusion that no intruder had come into that house, did you base that decision on one factor or several factors?
A Many factors.
Q: Could you please list those factors for us at this time?
A. … There were no signs of entry or exit from somebody coming in at night from the outside, the type of cutting on the screen is inconsistent with the average or the known ways to enter … The dust on the sill, criminals normally are not concerned with their footprints, footprints or heel prints or cloth prints from their clothing, they are not aware that we can make weave and cloth pattern comparisons.
So anyway, there wasn’t any signs that I could see of the entry and exit. There was no blood and so forth. The trail through the garage, going in, I didn’t expect to find a lot through there on the initial entry of an intruder. When the intruder got in, the fact that a knife was found in a knife block to commit the offenses with, is inconsistent with the burglar that just came in and cut a screen.
It’s equivalent to coming in with one knife, putting it up and looking for another knife to commit the crimes with
Two: There were — there was a lot of jewelry, and property laying in plain view, and none of this was disturbed or touched… The wounds on the two boys were approximately the same, that is deep, penetrating wounds. The wounds to the defendant were different in context, different styles of wounding… the complainant didn’t give any words or statements that the intruder said. This is unusual.
I have never worked an offense where somebody was fighting with a live victim, especially a man against a woman, to where vulgarity was not used, as well a lot of threats, that was not there. The cuts, they told me that she was cut on the neck and on both sides of her shoulder and arm. To fight an assailant, you should, there should have been some cast off blood, which from flailing of the arms and movement, and I didn’t find any cast off blood, on the glass table top, on walls, on arm level, high up… there was the glass on the floor, the vacuum cleaner and barefoot prints.
There was no footprints other than the bare foot prints. There was no shoe or boot prints present… some of the glass was on top of the bare foot prints, which would indicate the glass was placed there on top of the bloody footprints… there should have cuts and scratches on her feet after stepping on sharp glass from the wine glass, broken glass. And that was not there. There was no trail of bloody footprints leading from across the kitchen.
And, if the defendant had been stabbed either in the kitchen near the family room or in the family room and bleeding like she was, there should have been bloody footprints. Left a lot of bloody footprints by the kitchen sink. The garage door, that is the utility room leading into the garage door, there was some blood on the edge of the door which consistent with somebody touching it and looking out through there, shutting it, or whatever, however it got there.
I can’t say what they were doing, but blood was on the edge of the door. There were dropped blood straight down or very slow movement droplets of blood on the utility room floor, going to and from the family room across the kitchen floor. Outside in the garage, the lack of any blood at all… the fact that the gate was so difficult to open and shut is inconsistent that somebody would have committed a crime like this and gone to the great care of shutting a gate behind them and latching it.
It’s just inconsistent with somebody fleeing a murder with a living witness that is armed. The intruder is supposed to have dropped the knife in the utility room floor. I have never known someone to arm their victim, which is what this would have been equivalent to. And, all of these put together, the vacuum cleaner on top of the bloody footprints, in my opinion, no intruder committed these offenses.
The murder weapon was from the scene - rather than brought by the killer.
The sink was cleaned of blood. Darlie later claimed that she had wet towels to aid Damon and when doing this the blood had been cleaned off but there was no trace of blood left on the sink at all. Also there was no water on her or on the floor.
Q. All right. What is the next thing that you all did then?
A: Again, we went back into the house, and as you stand in the front entryway hall, you can evaluate the family room and the kitchen. And, at that time I asked Miss Long to check other bathrooms for occult or latent blood that you cannot see, as if someone had washed up. And then I focused my attention on the kitchen sink.
Q: All right. And when you looked at the kitchen sink, what was its appearance?
A: It was unusual. It — the sink portion had been cleaned of blood, and the blood stains on the front of the cabinet, were such that when that blood was being shed, it would also need to be shed into the sinks, which was now clean. So, it was my opinion that the sinks had probably been cleaned of blood.
While Darlie was calling 911, there is no sound of running water that can be heard in the background.
The sock that was found only has the boys’ DNA on it.
In the prosecution’s closing arguements, Mr. Shook said : And that sock ... it’s only the boys blood found on that sock, and not her blood. If that killer was in there with a sock on his hand, stabbing those boys and slashing her, and in a struggle don’t you know that her blood would be on that sock, but it’s not.”
These are public court transcripts. I have no doubt the woman is guilty. I don’t know why she did this...Mothers do kill their children it happens.
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