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Dog's bad nose prompts judge to toss drug case
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Posted on 11/19/2008 5:27:12 PM PST by Chet 99
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:27:13 PM PST
by
Chet 99
To: Chet 99
Then how did the dog smell????
(awful)
Thanks to Monty Python ....
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:28:53 PM PST
by
SkyDancer
("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
To: Chet 99
I’ve always thought this thing about tossing evidence is just wrong. If someone has the drugs, they have the drugs. There’s got to be another way to keep cops from searching illegally.
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:29:48 PM PST
by
I still care
(A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
To: Chet 99; AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; apackof2; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:31:14 PM PST
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: Chet 99
“Defense attorneys have shown Talon alerted that there were drugs in almost every vehicle he checked...”
Maybe the dog was trained to alert to steel belted radials instead of drugs.
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:35:41 PM PST
by
Bob J
(For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
To: I still care
Theres got to be another way to keep cops from searching illegally.
There is. Prosecute the cop for searching illegally. Throw him/her in prison. But since that will never happen, we need the exclusionary rule.
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:37:59 PM PST
by
microgood
To: I still care
Theres got to be another way to keep cops from searching illegally. How about we actually charge a few who engage in illegal searches under 18 USC 242 and toss them in jail for a decade or so.
Oh I forgot...these are cops we're talking about.
L
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:41:19 PM PST
by
Lurker
("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
To: Chet 99
"D'uh, which way did he go, George? Which way did he go?
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:42:00 PM PST
by
Emperor Palpatine
("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
To: I still care
“Theres got to be another way to keep cops from searching illegally.”
There is, charge them with an illegal search if they don’t find drugs.
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:46:47 PM PST
by
driftdiver
(No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
To: Lurker; microgood
Thought I had something original but I was a day late it appears.
Our idea would only result in cops finding (aka planting) more evidence.
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:48:19 PM PST
by
driftdiver
(No More Obama! - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
To: SkyDancer

I think I have something wrong with me.
Here, you smell this please?
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:49:35 PM PST
by
billorites
(freepo ergo sum)
To: Chet 99
Dam’nfoolishness. It really boils down simply:
Q: Did Talon detect drugs?
A: Yes
Q: Did the scroats have the drugs?
A: Yes
Q: Is Talon a reliable detector of drugs?
A: Yes, this time he certainly was.
Result: You’re under arrest, scroat! Gooddog, Talon! Yer a GoodBoy!
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posted on
11/19/2008 5:54:06 PM PST
by
DieHard the Hunter
(Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fà g am bealach.)
To: Chet 99
a narcotics-sniffing dogs nose was not reliable enough to justify searching a vehicle.The Judge doesn't seem to know much about dogs.
To: DieHard the Hunter
But it sounds like the police department lost the evidence after the fact. So, no evidence = no conviction.
Sloppy chain of custody procedures, or did the cops sell the drugs for extra cash?
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posted on
11/19/2008 6:06:44 PM PST
by
Pete98
(After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
To: DieHard the Hunter
Damnfoolishness. It really boils down simply:
Q: Did JBT think there might be something illegal happening in your house?
A: Yes
Q: Did the JBT find anything illegal inside?
A: Yes
Q: Is JBT a reliable detector of all things illegal?
A: Yes, this time he certainly was.
Result: Youre under arrest, scroat! Gooddog, JBT! Yer a GoodBoy!
I’ve reposted your weak logic by merely replaced the “dog” with a JBT...
...now...using your own words...tell us again how this is all legal and you would support the above action on you and your home and how it is NOT the actions of an out of control police state, depriving the free men of their rights.
Can’t wait to read your well thought out reply.
I’m sure it begins with something like “well, if you have nothing to hide...”...right?
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posted on
11/20/2008 6:04:28 AM PST
by
woollyone
("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
To: DieHard the Hunter
Do you understand the concept of “false positive”?
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posted on
11/20/2008 6:12:50 AM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
(Queen Elizabeth II was the first British monarch to send an e-mail - from the MSM)
To: Chet 99
Sounds like the dog is too accurate.
It’s detecting lingering odors after the drugs are gone.
To: Oztrich Boy
> Do you understand the concept of false positive?
Yes. In this case it can be argued that there wasn’t a false positive, as there were drugs.
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posted on
11/20/2008 6:22:34 AM PST
by
DieHard the Hunter
(Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fà g am bealach.)
To: woollyone
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posted on
11/20/2008 6:24:18 AM PST
by
DieHard the Hunter
(Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fà g am bealach.)
To: Bob J
>Maybe the dog was trained to alert to steel belted radials instead of drugs.<
Or, perhaps the dog has learned that if he “alerts” to a car, he gets to go in and rip the interior to shreds. Some dogs get motivated by the sheer act of pulling and biting. It’s due to poorly directed prey drive.
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posted on
11/20/2008 7:04:35 AM PST
by
Darnright
(A penny saved is a government oversight)
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