All Eyes on SF Court Today for Prop. 8 Decision

NBC11 ^ | Wed, Nov 19, 2008

[goldstategop]

It is. The people have the right to overrule the Court. Prop. 8 changes nothing that was not law before May 2008. The "retroactivity" problem was created by the Court's own refusal to stay its ruling til after the election. That is now moot anyway.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[goldstategop]

California did revise its Constitution extensively during the 1960s through the work of a Constitutional Revision Commission. Revisions are more infrequent and rare than amendments.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Amendment10]

The lawsuit is one of six cases filed directly in the state high court in San Francisco to challenge the Proposition 8. All six lawsuits contend the measure is a constitutional revision, not an amendment, because it strips a minority group of a fundamental right.

Regarding the claim that gay marriage is a fundamental right, has Reynolds v. United States (1878) been mentioned in conjunction with Prop. 8?

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=98&invol=145

Although I disagree with certain aspects of the Reynolds opinion, given that the USSC decided that polygamy was not a basic right, then gay marriage cannot be considered a basic right as pro-gay groups are advocating.

[goldstategop]

Same sex marriage is NOT a fundamental right anywhere in the U.S apart from Massachusetts and Connecticut, where it was imposed by the courts. The only reason it hasn't been reversed there is the Democrats have refused to allow people in those states to vote on the issue.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[fifedom]

“Four Bay Area counties are the latest to join the legal fight to try to stop state Proposition 8. The Board of Supervisors for Alameda, Marin, San Mateo and Santa Cruz counties have approved joining the lawsuit filed in the California Supreme Court by the cities of San Francisco and Los Angeles and Santa Clara and Los Angeles counties.”

Where are the Supervisors of the counties where Prop 8 passed?? As usual, conservatives are playing nice instead of fighting for their views.

[goldstategop]

Republicans are next to worthless. Just look at Red Arnold. If conservatives have learned a lesson by now, its that they have to stand up for ourselves, since its clear no one else will.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[little jeremiah]

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California judge stuff. It will be interesting to see what they do.

[only1percent]

If the Supreme Court does nullify Proposition 8 on the grounds that it was a revision, that is going to be the end of the matter. No recall drive or non-retention vote will change the situation, because it will be politically impossible to appoint any replacement Justice who wouldn’t vote to uphold the decision.

Just as in Massachusetts, when it comes to gay marriage, people are happy to vote “no” or say they will do so on narrow questions, but when faced with a bigger choice: permitting gay marriage, or electing socially conservative Republicans, they’ll choose to permit gay marriage.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Our mayor, Alan Autry, stood up FOR prop 8 before the election. Darn I wish he weren't term limited out!!