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1 posted on 11/19/2008 8:52:36 AM PST by jazusamo
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Bookmarked! thanks.


2 posted on 11/19/2008 9:02:24 AM PST by cvq3842
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Yes, there is a reason everyone is trying to get in and no one is trying to get out.

Trust me, lots of people are wanting to get out. Companies and individuals.

If the taxes don't kill us regulations and political correctness will.

3 posted on 11/19/2008 9:04:07 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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For example, President Martin van Buren had to deal with the devastating Panic of 1837. So what did he do (and does it sound familiar)? He sharply cut taxes and federal spending.

While not quite nonsense, this is utterly inapplicable to today.

The federal government was a great deal smaller in the 1830s and whatever it did it was going to have minimal effect on the economy.

4 posted on 11/19/2008 9:06:23 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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bflr


5 posted on 11/19/2008 9:06:44 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (Islam ... If you can't join them, beat them.)
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I must admit that when someone hates America, the greatest democracy in the history of the world, which has produced virtually unlimited opportunity for all, I can't explain it. When you encounter such an irrational force, there seems to be no rational explanation.

I don't think it is surprising at all. Although the US is not an officially Christian nation, it is founded on Christian principles and remains a devout nation to this day. Blame-America intellectuals believe that religion in general and Christianity in particular are the root cause of the world's problems and secularism is the solution. Every day the US exists is an offense to them. It is proof that their ideas are wrong. Of course they hate the US.

6 posted on 11/19/2008 9:10:32 AM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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5.56 ammo.


8 posted on 11/19/2008 9:18:34 AM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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“As George Santayana said, “Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.” And he should have added, “Those who accept myth for history are doomed to repeat the catastrophic errors of history that should have been avoided.””
and
“And Reagan would be the first to say we better get our history right and answer the hate-America crowd or we simply won't survive. In his last address from the Oval office he said:

“An informed patriotism is what we want. And are we doing a good enough job teaching our children what America is and what she represents in the long history of the world? ... We've got to teach history based not on what's in fashion but what's important ... If we forget what we did, we won't know who we are. I'm warning of an eradication of the American memory that could result, ultimately, in an erosion of the American spirit. Let's start with some basics: more attention to American history and a greater emphasis on civic ritual.

“And let me offer lesson number one about America: all great change in America begins at the dinner table. So tomorrow night in the kitchen I hope the talking begins. And children, if your parents haven't been teaching you what it means to be an American, let ‘em know and nail ‘em on it. That would be a very American thing to do.”

Americans have work to do, and strangely enough it is to sell the greatness of America to many of our fellow Americans. Our success or failure will determine our future. As Lincoln said, “We - even we here - hold the power and bear the responsibility ... We shall nobly save or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.””
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Excellent article.
Have you noticed that the truth is looked over and some convoluted scheme is preferred instead of simply doing what worked and will work and holding on to values that are necessary, and primary to achieving in this generation what was achieved in generations before?

All this distraction away from our core values: and calling it progressive.

Man has not changed. His needs are still the same. Our individual values are constant ...

then comes “the evil one” to tempt and corrupt these values in the name of progressive action ... which really means, it is going to give power and authority to those that do not have the interest of the people of this country at heart.

It is POWER, FAME, AUTHORITY, SUPREME CONCEIT TO RULE THE NATION, AND TO RULE, STEAL, CHEAT THEM OF THEIR MONEY AND POSSESSIONS, FREEDOM, LIBERTY, PROPERTY, SELF RESPECT AND ENSLAVE THEM. All in the name of unity, welfare, political correctness, etc. And we like sheep walk ahead of them: doing as they ask. Voting our own enslavement, loss of the American way.

Accepting one World Government is next.

9 posted on 11/19/2008 9:21:48 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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Some Ammunition To Use In The Battle Against The Hate-America Gang

They really don't; or else they'd leave.

10 posted on 11/19/2008 9:27:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Great read, thanks.

mrs


11 posted on 11/19/2008 9:28:08 AM PST by proudmilitarymrs (Obama wants to spread the wealth around. My wealth.)
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"LBJ's great society received the same acclaim as the New Deal, but history finds it was a total abject failure. It increased poverty, illegitimacy, crime and social dysfunction."

As will Obama's big "change" result i total abject failure, but unfortunately, like LBJ, He will be praised throughout his term(s), and for decades following. The left ALWAYS, without exception ignores truth and writes history as they envision it to be, always in their favor truth be damned.

13 posted on 11/19/2008 9:42:28 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/

Read The Federalist Papers by Madison, Hamilton and Jay.

All the talking points you need and when you write your letters or emails quote from The Federalist Papers.


19 posted on 11/19/2008 10:15:01 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Psalm 66:7b "He watches every movement of the nations. Rebels will not be able to oppose Him.")
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In my opinion, the reason people view government interference favorably is because there is this naive view among people that success, prosperity, and comfort are human rights, so the idea of letting failing business fall and irresponsible people pay the price for their actions is viewed as a crime.

What people don’t understand or refuse to grasp is that that’s how the economy is supposed to work; businesses are supposed to fall when they don’t work out, because the government pumping money into something that isn’t doing what’s necessary to keep going is just wasting funds that could go to something productive.

Also, there is this need to please everyone among society nowadays. Businesses and the government stumble over themselves trying to keep everyone happy, which we all know is impossible and is a waste of time, money and more often than not leads to resentment towards others (like what Affirmative Action and racial hiring quotas has done).

I’m of the opinion of Robert J. Ringer, in that if everyone was rationally selfish and always looking out for #1, things would be working out a lot better. We’ve seen the result of what happense when people allegedly try to look out for others (ie, the government trying to take care of the poor). Unfortunatly, I feel we are past the point of no return (or damn close to it). As a lot of people have suggested, a John Galt may be the only option for those of us who don’t want to spend the rest of our lives toiling for someone else’s benefit and getting nothing in return.


22 posted on 11/19/2008 10:35:34 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("Let 'em learn the hard way, 'cause teaching them is more trouble than they're worth,")
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bump 4 later


23 posted on 11/19/2008 11:05:52 AM PST by smokingfrog (If it's to be a bloodbath, let it be now. Appeasement is not the answer. - Ronald Reagan)
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thanks.

“And let me offer lesson number one about America: all great change in America begins at the dinner table. So tomorrow night in the kitchen I hope the talking begins.”

If conservatives want to take back this country, it must start with education.


24 posted on 11/19/2008 11:52:30 AM PST by dervish (in God I trust)
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Who am I going to convince with a reasoned and historically grounded argument like this? I’m mostly arguing with people who get their news from Jon Stewart and can’t differentiate between Sarah Palin and Tina Fey impersonating Sarah Palin. (See ‘Why Obama Won’ on youtube.) Why don’t I just explain how the microwave works to my dog, while I’m at it? It will be just about as productive, and my dog’s at least cute when she’s confused (and, yes, this is a reference to Larson’s cartoon)...


28 posted on 11/19/2008 4:42:03 PM PST by MeanFreePath
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I'm disappointed, I thought the answer to the question was going to be “50 caliber"!
31 posted on 11/19/2008 9:42:42 PM PST by dalereed
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