I'll do it. Hell, I'll take the number down to zero if my barrel doesn't melt.
Posted on 11/18/2008 4:19:31 PM PST by SmithL
San Francisco, CA (AP) -- Attorneys for the state and inmates' rights groups clashed Tuesday at the opening of a high-stakes trial over whether California's jam-packed prisons have led to unconstitutionally poor medical and mental health care.
If the special panel of three federal judges rules against the state, another trial will be held next year to determine remedies. Possible solutions include an order to release inmates before they have completed their full sentences, a move opposed by the Schwarzenegger administration.
Attorneys for the inmates want the prison population reduced from about 156,300 inmates to 110,000.
Further delay in solving California's prison crowding will mean only "additional pain, suffering and death for our clients," Michael Bien, one of the attorneys representing inmates, said during Tuesday's hearing.
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Well if the get rid of those 700 people on death row, that should open things up ....
Farm them out to Mexico where prison crowding isn’t a problem!
In before the retarded, “They’re in prison, who cares if it’s overcrowded” responses.
>Farm them out to Mexico where prison crowding isn’t a problem!
LOL
If I were the Emperor of America, I think I’d promote any sentence of more than 25 years to the death penalty; all existing Death Row inmates would have 6 months to complete their appeal, the newly increased Death-rowers would be given 18 months.
Why do people make the argument that Capital punishment is cruel and/or unusual? Throughout human history/culture there have always been things that are so reprihensible that they earn death for those that do them. And how is it not more cruel to take more than 20 years of someone’s life, and possibly their ability to live in society, as a payment TO that society?
>Yep, I guarantee a very high percentage of the prison pop. is in because of draconian drug laws.
If they really were draconian, they’d be dead.
By this logic, all draconian laws (affirmative action, anti-trust laws, federal reserve laws) should be dead. however, most of them aren’t. Your argument fails.
You misunderstand me, by draconian I’d meant that the prisoners themselves would be dead.
As is, the current system is insane, that is, repeating the same over-and-over expecting different results.
...Well, I would want corruption/acceptance-of-bribes a capital offense. Let the political {instead of those that actually do their jobs} cut their own throats.
That we agree on.
>However, I really don’t trust our legal system anymore.
You and me both... just ref. CA SC pulling the legality of homosexual marriage outta their asses... coincidentally, if they hadn’t dont that, prop 8 wouldn’t have been an issue.
The state wants to build a new death row for $300,000,000.
I suggest we forego the construction and hire three judges and attorneys and staff for about $4 mill a year and expedite the appeals, pay for dna tests, or whyatever is needed to review the cases. This will prioved a better review process and expedite executions.
Identify as many Mexicans as possible and export those within 2 years of the end of their time. Have to tighten border and immigration enforcement.
Reduction of sentence for drug crimes unless sales to children or violence involved.
Identify additional prisons as total pysch facilities.
Release any inmate over the age of 70 who is physically disabled or not considered to be a pyhsical threat to others. Exception, those doing life without.
Turn two prisons over to private industry to cut costs. More if no problems persist.
Reduce the salary of the officers 7%.
Future officers hired to not have maximum retirement until age 57 (currently age 50).
Reduce overtime by hiring part-timers or more full-time officers. 1 new officer with benefits is 125% of salary for one position. Officers on overtime make 150% of full pay of a senior officer.
Give parole to the counties give them 90% of the current cost the first year and reduce to 75% in subsequent years. The counties POs make less than the state. Better administration and accountibility if local.
The prisons in Cal are the largest mental health department in the world. The level of care is ridiculous and their are injuries and deaths because of it. Most of them get out and you see some of them on the streets. That's what started the law suit and now the law suit has the entire state by the beach balls.
Ah. Carry on.
>How much time is needed to give them an proper appeal?
Six months, like I said previously.
The group I suggest would expedite the first appeal. But they could still go Cal Supreme and USSC. But no multiple trips up and down the ladder on technicalities. Only on new significant evidence.
Outsource? Like Siberia?
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