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Dan Walters: California high court to revisit gay marriage
Sacramento Bee ^ | 11/18/8 | Dan Walters

Posted on 11/18/2008 2:23:56 PM PST by SmithL

Every so often, we California voters do something that reverberates far beyond the state's borders.

We did it in 1978 when we approved Proposition 13, a property tax limit that heralded a so-called "tax revolt" in other states and helped Ronald Reagan win the presidency.

We did it in 1994 when we passed Proposition 187, a measure aimed at ending public benefits for illegal immigrants that touched off a fierce national debate despite being invalidated by the courts.

And we did it this month when we passed Proposition 8, a constitutional amendment to overturn the state Supreme Court's legalization of same-sex marriage, igniting a firestorm of protest from gay rights advocates and another legal duel.

The preliminary vote tally was scarcely completed before opponents of Proposition 8 filed new petitions asking the Supreme Court to void the measure as violative of basic human rights and/or as an illegal revision of the state constitution. The constitution says the initiative process can be used only to amend the constitution while more extensive revisions must come from the Legislature or a constitutional revision convention.

On Monday, Attorney General Jerry Brown – a likely candidate for governor with a long-established pro-gay rights record – steered a careful course through Proposition 8's political minefield, describing the issue as one of "profound importance" and urging a rapid judicial decision, but also opposing the plaintiffs' request for a stay on Proposition 8's effects, and stopping short of endorsing the measure's constitutional validity.

Brown gave Proposition 8 an official ballot title and summary that the measure's sponsors believe was weighted against them and has since declared that same-sex marriages performed between the Supreme Court decision and Election Day remain valid. ...as attorney general, he also has a duty to defend voter-approved measures in court, even those he opposes.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2010; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homosexualagenda; jerrybrown; perverts; prop8; sanfranciscovalues
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Jerry Brown's social agenda and political aspirations are much more important to him than his duty.
1 posted on 11/18/2008 2:23:57 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
The California Supreme Court's Justices face the prospect of being ousted if they're perceived to put their personal philosophies ahead of the law.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/18/2008 2:27:26 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SmithL

Time for another recall, actually five: Brown and the Gang of Four on the CA Supreme Court.


3 posted on 11/18/2008 2:27:46 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: SmithL

When I think of Jerry, I think of Linda Ronstadt and the PCV valve.


4 posted on 11/18/2008 2:28:12 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: goldstategop

Who is gathering funds to recall the justices and the attorney general of California?


5 posted on 11/18/2008 2:28:47 PM PST by pointsal
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To: SmithL

California, with its oh-so-democratic propositions. Where everyone can have a say in deciding the state’s policies. Anything can get on the ballot, if you work hard, donate money, and get those signatures.

Be aware, though, that if your proposition might be unsavory to liberals, that even if all of California passes it, the courts will promptly overturn it. The more money your proposition will waste, or the more it promotes a fringe lifestyle as-seen-on-TV, the better chances it has.


6 posted on 11/18/2008 2:28:56 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SmithL
Does the Secretary of State not approve ballot language? here in MO, Carnahan is the Sec of State and incompetent at writing anything remotely impartial. The AG, now Gov-elect has a similar issue with what he decides to fight.
7 posted on 11/18/2008 2:31:06 PM PST by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: In veno, veritas

Prop 8’s original title was something like “Definition of Marriage”, but AG Moonbeam renamed it “Take Away Civil Rights” or something like that. His renaming the Prop played a large part in changing the poll numbers from 60% to just barely passing. Actually, for a while, No on 8 was leading until Newsom’s “whether you like it or not” was aired.


8 posted on 11/18/2008 2:38:16 PM PST by SmithL (Drill Dammit!)
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To: SmithL
The situation is somewhat reminiscent of what happened a quarter-century ago when a state Supreme Court headed by Chief Justice Rose Bird routinely overturned death verdicts in murder cases even though voters had strongly voted for capital punishment. Bird and two other justices were later ousted by voters.

If any justices try to overturn the peoples vote on Proposition 8, then these justices should be ousted as well !

9 posted on 11/18/2008 2:41:58 PM PST by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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Bookmark.


10 posted on 11/18/2008 2:42:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: goldstategop

It’s funny to hear homosexuals compare gay marriage to civil rights. They seem to think they have a constitutional right to marry whoever and whatever they want. What’s next,a marriage between man and beast or man and child?


11 posted on 11/18/2008 2:43:32 PM PST by peeps36 ( Al Gore. Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: goldstategop

So stat ousting them already. Before they do MORE damage.


12 posted on 11/18/2008 2:47:02 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: showme_the_Glory

“...and the PCV valve.”

And the birth of C.A.R.B., and life was never the same since.


13 posted on 11/18/2008 2:47:53 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: SmithL
On Monday, Attorney General Jerry Brown – a likely candidate for governor with a long-established pro-gay rights record – steered a careful course through Proposition 8's political minefield, describing the issue as one of "profound importance" and urging a rapid judicial decision, but also opposing the plaintiffs' request for a stay on Proposition 8's effects, and stopping short of endorsing the measure's constitutional validity.

All I want to hear is when the approved Proposition 8 will become a part of the State Constitution as lawfully passed by the people of California. All this psycho-babble is nonsense and noise. Please stop it and provide a schedule to carry out the mandate of the people!

14 posted on 11/18/2008 3:12:01 PM PST by olezip
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To: SmithL
We did it in 1978 when we approved Proposition 13, a property tax limit that heralded a so-called "tax revolt" in other states and helped Ronald Reagan win the presidency.

My very liberal uncle was lamenting to me in September that it was just not fair that he paid less property tax than his kids, because he has lived in his home so long. I suggested that he send more money to the state as a donation. I assured him that they would be glad to keep it. Of course, that is not what he wanted to hear, he wants everybody's taxes raised.

15 posted on 11/18/2008 3:17:26 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: goldstategop
The California Supreme Court's Justices face the prospect of being ousted

and Arnold would replace them with a bunch of conservative appointments, right? careful what you wish for.
16 posted on 11/18/2008 3:33:00 PM PST by houston1
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To: calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan; SierraWasp; kellynla; doug from upland

If the Court invalidates the will of the people yet again, a recall needs to take place.


17 posted on 11/18/2008 4:57:51 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: wagglebee

If you’re from California, you may want to call up your friends to start a recall.


18 posted on 11/18/2008 4:58:35 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Sons of Union Vets; SmithL
Chief Justice Rose Bird routinely overturned death verdicts in murder cases even though voters had strongly voted for capital punishment. Bird and two other justices were later ousted by voters.

Care to list the names of those executed since then. Hint None.

19 posted on 11/18/2008 5:04:09 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: houston1
and Arnold would replace them with a bunch of conservative appointments, right?

We elect Justices in California, the lefties will have to run again in two years.

20 posted on 11/18/2008 5:06:36 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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